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Great tune Bob! Nice job on the video!
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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Great tune Bob! Nice job on the video!
Thank you, Peter.
I'd like to know if the credit we gave to PGM at the end of the video is adequate or if we need to make changes. I really appreciate the contribution you and your folks have made to our projects via PGM products and I want to be sure you're recognized appropriately. BTW,I made an unsuccessful attempt to contact you directly via email and was directed by staff to write you on this forum.
Sincerely,
Bob
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Nice job, i enjoyed the whole song and video.
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Very pro sounding, there'd be no way I'd guess that the music came from the box, and I've been around.
Partly accent, and partly my hearing loss but a some points the word comprehension was at under 80 percent for me. With headphones and the sound jacked. Check with others, if they are not getting over 90 percent it's needing a tad 'vocal' tweak.
But great job. And good luck.
John Conley
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BTW, after the tracks were ready in Band in a Box what did you do to them? DAW? Plug ins?
Pre Production processing?
Thanks!
John Conley
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Very pro sounding, there'd be no way I'd guess that the music came from the box, and I've been around.
Partly accent, and partly my hearing loss but a some points the word comprehension was at under 80 percent for me. With headphones and the sound jacked. Check with others, if they are not getting over 90 percent it's needing a tad 'vocal' tweak.
But great job. And good luck.
John I agree with you regarding the vocal but Hawgley has posted that he doesnt accept a critique of his finished songs (I dont know if you know that)so we should accept what he has stated. Frankie
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Thats ok. I'm deaf and when I listen don't know if it's me, or it's the mix.
One of my pet peeves with a lot of modern music even when my ears were perfect before the chemo wrecked them in June was I didn't get the words. Not something new either.
The girl with colitis goes by." (Real lyric: "The girl with kaleidoscope eyes," Beatles)
"Olive, the other reindeer." (Real lyric: "All of the other reindeer.")
"The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind." (Real lyric: "The answer is blowing in the wind," Bob Dylan.)
I have to go every 4 weeks and do the word comprehension test, after which they calibrate my hearing aids so they pick up kids screaming in the grocery store and amplify them so that it sounds like a jet plane, the the carts crash and I turn them off. So when I listen to music I know sort of count the times I don't understand anything and take note of it.
When it comes to women, if I hear them, I still can't understand them. Just ask my wife.
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Thanks for the input guys. I do appreciate that in our individual capacities as producers, and we all have to wear that hat at some point, there are myriad approaches to every aspect of the recording, arranging, mixing, and mastering process and we all have our own tested processes for achieving our final products. I've been doing this long enough to have confidence in my own capabilities so I tend to filter out suggestions that I see as primarily personal preference. If I listened to, and implemented every suggestion my creations wouldn't sound like they do and as we all know "management by committee" is seldom ever effective. So analyze away...and then implement your suggestions in your next project. And remember...have fun. We have an incredibly creative tool here for making music. We're living in a wonderful time, eh?
Bob
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Well I'm no producer. But I am a consumer. I have tv shows I can't watch without close caption.
Last year I was fine. Then I had chemo. Now I'm very deaf over 2000hz.
I found out that, depending on the initial pitch of the voice the following letters are high register.
K 3400Hz
f 4200Hz
s 4900Hz
th 5200hz
Thus if some one tells me to _u_ _ o _ _ I hear something like owc ohh and smile.
I asked a friend who has a Phd in sound engineering about music with lyrics and he told me that the upper frequencies are often pulled right out and that's what makes the music hard to understand, and impossible for me without hearing aids and even then not after 5 p.m. when my hearing tanks.
If the radiation didn't take my voice and turn it into the deepest hardest to understand bass I'd record some stuff and pluck out the above letters and jack them for interest. I guess that's not happening.
Our best friends are both music professors and Doctors of Music teaching at the university. One is a chorale/vocal specialist and she taught my daughter warm-ups where you worked with diction and she told her that you have to work at that all your life, because other wise people won't understand you. I doubt most people who never took a guitar lesson but play it ever took a vocal lesson either. Singing is communication, and if people don't understand the words, the impact is gone.
I had a barber tell me he had a customer who wouldn't talk to him, because what does a frigging barber know? At the end of the haircut, the guy (who has a really tough to understand Italian accent) told the guy.."So OK, no charge ata all. You just take thata bada haircut this stupid barber give you and never come back ok...fine..." plus a few other Italian descriptive words that went with it.
C'est la vie.
PS. I never said there was anything wrong with the song. I said I have hearing loss. When a song is in it's final stage someone with good ears should write out the words, stop and start. Then you make the decision about the singing part. Is 90 percent good enough? Not my call...that's up to the people who make it.
FWIW I never understood trying to listen to music in a car. Unless you have a very quiet car. Like trying to get the symphony to play in a shopping mall food court. Nice acoustics. Forget pianissimo.
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WOW...John. Quite a reply. Sorry about that hearing thing. Since the video software resamples the WAV file to 48k and then YouTube reprocesses the audio AND video before posting it, God knows what effect all that has on the original song. However there are two other posts on this song that have a link to a high-rez MP3 that may provide more clarity for you. I use very little processing on the final product, usually a little compression and an actual boosting of the highs to put back the "sparkle" that gets lost in the mixing process. This post was primarily to get PGM's input on the video credits we gave them. But in the interest of making the work available to everyone, here are the lyrics to the song. Thanks for listening ~Bob
One More Thing
© 2010 Bob Buford
Here in this lonely drawer I found your faded picture
Beneath the box that held your wedding ring
A folded piece of paper with the words to your song
The one you always loved to hear me sing
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely
One more thing to break my heart in two
Now if it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue
Just one more thing reminding me of you
Here in this lonely room I wake up before daylight
Shaken by another dream of you
Then I have my morning coffee
In the cup you used to drink from
Moving on is something I can’t do
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely
One more thing to break my heart in two
Now if it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue
Just one more thing reminding me of you
It’s just one more thing to keep me sad and lonely
One more thing to break my heart in two
If it wasn’t this, it’d just be something else to make me blue
Just one more thing reminding me of you
Just one more thing reminding me of you
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Thanks for the input guys. I do appreciate that in our individual capacities as producers, and we all have to wear that hat at some point, there are myriad approaches to every aspect of the recording, arranging, mixing, and mastering process and we all have our own tested processes for achieving our final products. I've been doing this long enough to have confidence in my own capabilities so I tend to filter out suggestions that I see as primarily personal preference. If I listened to, and implemented every suggestion my creations wouldn't sound like they do and as we all know "management by committee" is seldom ever effective. So analyze away...and then implement your suggestions in your next project. And remember...have fun. We have an incredibly creative tool here for making music. We're living in a wonderful time, eh?
Bob
Actually Bob my "input" wasnt to you but John.Because he wondered if his hearing problem was the reason he found the vocal a bit low in the mix and I just pointed out "to him"that I found the same thing and I didnt think it was his hearing problem.Frankie
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Yea, I got that, Frankie. And my response wasn't to John, but to you.
Bob
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