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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB
But only if you have installed a version of PowerTracks Pro since this is where the TCHelicon gets installed. This has always been the case as best I recall.
that used to be true, but it changed with this version. I don't have power tracks, never have... but starting with version 2011 I can use the audio harmony feature, which is powered by the TCHelicon engine.
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However, beginning with the current version 2011, you can access the TCHelicon harmonies through the AUDIO HARMONY feature in either RB or BIAB
But only if you have installed a version of PowerTracks Pro since this is where the TCHelicon gets installed. This has always been the case as best I recall.
Pat is correct you DO NOT need Powertracks for audio harmony with version 2011. Real Band gets this from BIAB now. I do not have PT installed on my laptop and it indeed is able to do audio harmonys. Brian
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Sure enuff, checked it out and you guys are indeed correct. Most have been one of the 50 new features I missed! Thanks for the info.
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Yeah, man. Now we're talking. I'm installing it with my 2011 upgrade right now. Warning: I'll probably be back with questions on how to use it...
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Yeah, man. Now we're talking. I'm installing it with my 2011 upgrade right now. Warning: I'll probably be back with questions on how to use it...
Keep us posted ... I want to hear your thoughts after you've had time to play with everything!
One good way to get acquanted with BIAB is to open the style picker, and play the demo song for each style
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I'm well acquainted with BIAB. It's RB that I've never seen before.
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I'm well acquainted with BIAB. It's RB that I've never seen before.
Nice PDF manual in the RB folder.
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Reading the pdf when you hit a stumbling block is a good idea, however I find most features pretty intuitive, so I hope most of it just comes to you.
When in doubt; right click an area for options. There are a lot of features accessible that way. Right clicking on audio data brings audio options, Right clicking the track name brings up track options, etc.
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Well, the .pdf that is in my RB folder is for 2010.5, and it has tons of stuff that is wrong. It cites dropdown menus that don't exist, files that aren't there, etc.
The problems I'm having now are not going to be solved by a right-click. I can't figure out how to configure the program to record from my Line 6 XTLive. Tutorial says that this should be easy, as long as the audio drivers have been set up correctly. Well, apparently not. When I use MME, I hear Real Band but no XTLive. When I choose ASIO drivers, I get no sound from anything.
This really should be a bit more user friendly.
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Well, the .pdf that is in my RB folder is for 2010.5, and it has tons of stuff that is wrong. It cites dropdown menus that don't exist, files that aren't there, etc.
can you give specific details on the dropdown menus that are cited in the manual but which don't exist?
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The problems I'm having now are not going to be solved by a right-click. I can't figure out how to configure the program to record from my Line 6 XTLive. Tutorial says that this should be easy, as long as the audio drivers have been set up correctly. Well, apparently not. When I use MME, I hear Real Band but no XTLive. When I choose ASIO drivers, I get no sound from anything.
OK, let's go back to MME for starters since that's usually easier than ASIO. Now look for the AUDIO DRIVERS button. After you click it, There should be two windows: one for input device and one for output device. Your Line6 should show up in the input device window. Is it there? If not, that leads to a different discussion.
If it is there, next question ... is it selected?
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This really should be a bit more user friendly.
audio configurations are a bear in pretty much every music software. I really hate messing with mine once it works. The good news is that once you get it set up, you shouldn't need to change it, and it should work from then onward.
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In Preferences-->2-Audio, I have MME listed in the "Audio Drive Type" box. If I click on the "Drivers" button, I get the "Audio Drivers" window. On the left side, there is the "Audio Input Drivers" area, which lists "Microsoft Sound Mapper", "SoundMAX Digital Audio", "Modem #0 Line Record", and "Line 6 PODxt Live". Highlighted is the last one, "Line 6 PODxt Live". On the right side is the "Audion Output Drivers" area, which shows the same choices, with the choices in a different order. In this box, from top to botton, is "SoundMAX Digital Audio", "Microsoft Sound Mapper", "Modem #0 Line Record", and "Line 6 PODxt Live". It's just the top two choices that are in a different order. In this box, the top choice, "SoundMAX Digital Audio", is selected. ---------------------------
As far as the Tutorial .pdf, I don't remember what it was that I was looking at. This whole installation and expedition of the program has been a nightmare. At the moment, I can see that the dialogue boxes in the .pdf are different than what shows up, probably as a result of the difference between 2010.5 and 2011. For example, the tutorial shows when you change the key in the Key Signature box, that there is a prompt that comes up next asking if you want to transpose MIDI data tracks to new key. Well, in 2011, that information is taken care of in the initial Key Signature box.
In the next box of the tutorial, it cites the "Generate" button, with a "+" next to it. There is no "+" next to it, there is a drop-down that asks what you want to Generate, including "All BB Tracks", "Select and Generate a Real Track", etc. Now some of this is obvious to someone who has experience with BIAB, but this is not a successful beginner "How to get started" tutorial. I don't even know what "BB" stands for in this context.
I'm not sure why they would even include a .pdf of the manual for 2010.5 rather than a manual for 2011.
Anyway, I'm more concerned about setting up my audio drivers and getting the damned program to work. Any thoughts?
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I have the Line6 BassXT Live and could never get their ASIO driver to work with RealBand. I gave up and ran the analog out of Line6 into my Tascam or Edirol interfaces. I think it is a problem with their driver but their technical support only has experience with the big DAWs like Cubase and Sonar. It would be interesting to hear if other Line6 users here on the PG Music forum were able to get the driver to work in RealBand.
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Dammit, that's not good. I got the Line 6 XT Live to show up as the input driver, and can see the VU meter move when I play, but nothing comes out the speakers. I'm hoping someone has experience in this. It's the reason I bought the program. I really don't want to have to buy more hardware to make this work.
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Looks like the problem is that Line 6 gear uses ASIO driver. Anyone know how to configure these drivers with RealBand?
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OK, it gets harder from here.
Make sure the Line6 drivers are current and installed
Do you have a handle on things like Setting the bitrate in the Line6 Setting the bitrate to match in RB Unlock the ASIO drivers so the host can take control (done in the Line6 controls)
Do the drivers show up as an option in RB when ASIO is selected?
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I know nothing about bitrates and unlocking ASIO drivers.
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Line6 shouldhave a control panel. Go in there and set the bit rate to something small for now, like 16/44 While in there look for an option to unlock the card, or it may be called 'let host take control' or something that lets the DAW control the ASIO
Also, so you know, with ASIO you can probably only have one sound app open at a time.
Go into audio area of RB and switch to ASIO, then see if the Line6 drivers show up. If so, select them like you did peviously in MME, using 'move to top' etc
Now while in the RB audio area, set the bitrate to match the ASIO bit rate in the Line6. 16/44 in this example.
See if you have in/out using the VU meters.
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Control panel? You know this is a pedalboard, right?
Lost...
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OH dear more problems with Asio Drivers and realBand. Funk my RB is useless here too - despite a frsit class sound card. I suggest you need a new soundcard - you need one anyway for decent sound. BUT be warned RB does NOT work with all sound cards, ensure that someone here has got one working first.
Its well time that PG sorted out their ASIO driver handling - shame on them
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funkifized, lets keep it all in one thread now, or I'll get confused.
In the other thread you had the Line6 recording an hour ago, so now jumping to this thread makes no sense.
And yes I know it's a pedal, but it has drivers for all recent Windows OS, so it has a control panel. If you want to continue, let's do it in the other thread where we were making progress.
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