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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes
Re: SPIDER 6
I should say I am a big fan of avoiding fade-out endings, which are often cop-outs, but I might like one here, maybe with a short repeated solo part. The term “ostinato” is trying to get me to use it.

By the way, “ticking over” is alien to an American. Does it mean something like “in progress”?

I'll investigate the ostinato.
Ticking over in Oz often refers to something working quietly in the background or idling ready to go.
The I.A. interpretation of the lyric shows the strengths and weaknesses of I.A. Interesting.
When it can interpret puns it'll be really I.
Oh, I've altered the final chord and made it ambiguous.

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Originally Posted By: vicarn
The mix is well balanced to my ears and the lyrics were an interesting read.
I agree with B.D. about building the instruments up, even if you gradually let them down again.
Vic

Thanks Vic.
There're some arrangement changes in the latest mix which may, or may not, achieve the aim.


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Originally Posted By: PROJECT M
Hi Ray
Super intro
The song sounds really good
I am curious how it develops further
Great work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

Andi,
Thank you.
Curiosity was scratched by the cat.


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Originally Posted By: Birchwood
Hi Ray,
I had the same feeling as Dave; "what a long intro". But I loved the chords progression and how the bass played in it.
Very nicely done!
And then the drums came in. So nice!
But there is a lot more to listen to, like the melody itself and that organ. That has a very important role. Liked it!
If I listen carefully I can hear "Oooh, la, la laaa", so I am curious how you gonna sing those very long and cool, but sometimes, not easy to understand, lyrics (for a poor Dutchman).
Are you also planning a kind of chorus in the song?
As I said, I'm curious...
Hans

Thanks Hans,
The lyrics are a mix of recollections from 50s/60s suburban Australia as well as references to the evil that is often forgotten in the nostalgia.
I've added oohs and such.


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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
ray,
The wash of guitar works. A nice, big sound.
Drums sound good.
Bass is strong.
A good bed. Now lie in it....
(or lay in it and tell the truth)
fj

Lay, lie, prostrate, prevaricate...
Thanks Floyd.


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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Ray,
You go a nice bed going. Listened to it yesterday and today. Nothing sticks out to my ears. Sounds like western & punk marriage smile I actually like this type of bass on certain tunes, and this is a perfect example of one. Good deal. Interesting how this will evolve.
I wonder how less aggressive, sinatraesque vocals would sound on it? Thank you for sharing.
Misha.

Misha,
I'm in accord with you regarding the style of vocal - well, at least for the verses.
I've sorted the melody & phrasing now - just need a voice.
Thanks!


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Originally Posted By: PeterF
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The lyric was full of childhood references.
The solo guitar might have too much reverb?
Overall it's a strong backing track.
Peter

Ta peter,
yes, a little nostalgia blended with the bits nostalgia neglects.
I agree regarding the solo...but it needs it. I hope to replace it with something that can stand a lot less.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Ray, IMHO your backing track bed is prime for your lyrics. I wouldn't change a thing.

Many thanks Mario. I hope I won't need to change much, if anything.


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Excellent tune Ray. Could relate to most of the things mentioned in the lyrics. Going to be a very cool song..


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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Excellent tune Ray. Could relate to most of the things mentioned in the lyrics. Going to be a very cool song..

Thanks Scott,
I assumed quite a few were common, (given the US origins & ubiquity on TV), and hoped they'd translate. You've let me know they do...ta.


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“In the 50s of silence
The 60s of obey
There was no escape
There was no chance to say”

“And the itsby bitsy spider
From behind its rock came out
With the power of authority
As our parents would spout.”

“The danger not strangers but those in the hive.”

The above lines are profound and scary.

We started with the draft vocal version and it did not disappoint.

We like your bass part and the vocal ... bring it up at least 2 db smile
The drum work paid off as they really pop in the good way.
The RT solo bits set in very nicely.
And it is all surrounded by a nice arrangement and soundstage.

Well done and hugely thought provoking.

J&B

PS We did a song a while back featuring vignettes of folks for whom the good ole days were not so good at all.

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Hy Rayc,

Your words are thought-provoking. The choirs are excellent and the chord sequence is always highly sought after. Beautiful harmony in the background. Well done.

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I got just about all the references. REALLY good lyrics.

I listened to the third link you posted. Vocal level sounds good. I'm glad it's not buried in the mix.

I don't know what you used for the "ooooo" BGV, but I liked it. Sort of a 60s sci-fi vocal.

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