6.2 is available

Thank you. I just got the email as well.

Studio One is a fine DAW and I'm a beta tester for their notation software, so I know they are committed to improving the product.

StudioOne+, they make you sign in to get the price. Makes me decide that I really don't want to know. but for those who already know, how much does this cost?


Nevermind, I dug a little deeper and only find subscription services. Who in their right mind would pay a monthly subscription for their DAW? and by the way, that is a rhetorical question.

It appears there may be some misconceptions here.

Studio One Version 6.2 is a maintenance update. For me, it was free. It took all of five minutes to download and install, and a lot of that time was for the program to re-scan my system for plug-ins.

Studio One may be purchased separately and that's what I did a few years ago. I have not had to pay anything to continue using it. Those who opt for the subscription purchase what PreSonus calls Sphere, and they get everything PreSonus makes. I do not need everything PreSonus makes, and I share your dislike for subscription-based software.

Here are the Studio One price list:

https://shop.presonus.com/Studio-One

Thanks Mario. The last thing I want to do is start a DAW-WAR. But I have to ask. How does a home studio hobbiest justify $400 for Studio One Pro when Reaper is $60 (and that is if you want to pay)?. I don't presume to know what's best for a Pro Studio owner who is charging and making money as their business. But for a home studio user, I can tell you that extra cost makes no sense. Just my opinion.

I doubt my story is the same as for others, but I looked at many possible DAWS when SONAR seemed like it would disappear. After trying many demos, I bought Studio One using their cross-grade pricing, and, as I mentioned, I only bought the DAW and not the subscription.

I had several reasons for choosing Studio One. The most important was the integration with Notion notation software (same company). Then I decided to swap out my Focusrite interfaces for one from PreSonus so that the PreSonus Control Software would give me tight integration with both the audio interface and their Faderport Control Surface. I much prefer the PreSonus Control software to the Focusrite software.

It’s about workflow. I have used both DAWs, and several others as well. To name a few NTracks studio Multitrackstudio, powertracks, Realband, Acid Pro versions 2,4, 5, Cakewalk from home studio 2 to Sonar to Bandlab, studio one from version 2 to 6, reaper versions 3,4,6. Now Harrison Mixbus. Sometimes I think I am nuts.

The reason I preferred Studio one is workflow and for that point polished workflow. Take just one area. While Reaper does comping very effectively it is waaaaay behind Studio one in the slick workflow. Same with bus routing Reaper is far more flexible, but also far more confusing.

Bottom line is studio one is polished and smooth, professional looking and acting. Still the old Reaps does a very nice job. It also has some things none of the others have. The video while not fancy is far more useful. The fact it is light weight and easy on the system is attractive. I am going to give both Mixbus and Reaper a fair shake down. Cause as you mentioned they are less expensive. Reaper in particular at $60 and that covers two release cycles is a bargain.so really it is $30 per release. Studio one pro is $149 for an upgrade.

Your point is well taken. Still for someone who love what they are doing as a hobby a $350 software package is still less than $.50 a day entertainment.

I am re-evaluating my needs. I use Band in a Box to create a lot of my music. And I just need a simple program to mix and render it. I could use Realband, as I did in the past. But I don’t particularly like the workflow. I mixed a song yesterday in Mixbus and I have to say the results were nothing less than amazing. I used nothing but the channel strips and master strip built 32c fx. With the exception of one reverb bus, and one Waves SSL 4000 G master plugin on the master bus.

I mixed the same song in Reaper and also got a very good result. I used the set of Waves CLA plugins and the SSL master on that. I loved the end result on both. Reaper is a capable package as is. I have watched many Kenny G. videos and well as the most of the videos Nathan and Ben put out over at Harrison.

If one likes Studio one (I still do) the price is not ridiculous in the long run. I have friend who play golf, and feel for recreation or hobby that $40 green fees every week is affordable. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay did I say way more than the cost of amp DAW.

One last thought. One thing that kept me away from Reaper for years was/is the rabid responses from there fan base. I’m working past that now.

12 step program for Reaperism! Dan maybe you can teach me some Reap tips!

Dan, many of us are using Studio One because of Cakewalk Sonar's failure. I have had a copy of Reaper for years but just found Sonar more intuitive to use. When Sonar went bankrupt I moved to Studio One.

As far as cost goes, what we pay for a DAW is a minor part of the total cost of just software no matter what DAW you use. That says nothing about the cost of instruments. Matt most likely has a small fortune invested in horns. I have a ton of money invested in guitars and amps. So...the DAWs are not a material amount of money in relation to the other cost.

It is becoming expensive to have this music hobby. I just paid close to $300 for four vacuum tubes for a new amp I am building. The two stupid little three-string-guitars I just finished building most likely cost two or three hundred dollars in parts.

Every year or so I buy another version of BIAB at whatever audiophile cost.

Homeowner's insurance doubled this year. Car insurance went up by $400 a year. Electricity is up by $100 a month. The cost of living is out of control no matter how much money you make.

I did buy a two-dollar Powerball ticket for the billion-dollar jackpot...lol

I am 78 and still working, not every day but...

Cheers,

Billy

EDIT: Here is a photo of the four hundred drawers of electronic parts I have collected over the last ten years. God only knows what all that stuff costs...lol

Thanks for the very polite and respectful and informational comments. This is why I like this place. You don't have to fear "stirring the pot" on occasion. You all make good points. Each to their own.

It’s is supposed to be fun so we each decide what is fun to us. You made an honest and thoughtful comment. You are also a reasonable user of the Reapster. It is a viable choice. Heck any of the solid products on the table today will Git ‘er done!

Pro Tools is still the standard IMHO.

Studio One's newie costs, in Australia, the misquote number of the beast + $0.14.
I've been lead to understand it & Pro Tools are the ant's pants.
I'm more than happy with the ant's G String.
"Reaps"?
Pros?
Studes?
Sons?
Auds?
RealBs?
To each according to needs & means.

These seem to be the most popular DAWs, in no particular order.

Ableton Live 11
Logic Pro
Studio One 5/6
Bitwig Studio 4
Audacity
Pro Tools
Garage Band
Steinberg Cubase Pro 10
FL Studio 20
REAPER

Other forums I have seen that have people producing music that is not always for profit seem to like Alberton, Logic Pro, Studio One, and Cubase.

Pro Tools is the industry standard for hire recording studios. It is most likely the best for live drum tracking. It is not necessarily well received for the sort of creative processes we use here on this forum.

I have tried most of the major DAWs. They all do a pretty good job. I could live with any of them but some are just a bit more intuitive to me. Quality results can be obtained with any of the DAWs on the above list.

Whatever DAW produces the results you are looking for with the least amount of work is the one to use if you can justify the cost.

Not all of us are doing the same thing with the DAW we use. I, for example, don't record live instruments nearly so much any longer. I do not use my DAW to try to produce top-quality recordings. If I need a top-quality recording I go to a professional studio and let the experts deal with the issues.

I understand why someone would not like to change to a new DAW even if it was better. Learning new software takes work and can be frustrating.

One of the reasons I use Studio One is that it is pretty similar to Sonar and was easy to transition to for me.

Certain forums are pretty famous for being adamant about certain products.

There is always the Fender-Gibson discussion. Ford Chevy, you know the drill.

I tend to be open-minded enough to try new things. I have also found products I will likely never change from. Anderson guitars for example. Not so many people even know Tom Anderson exist must less have ever played one.

As I have said before, the cost issue is becoming more of a problem every year.

Reaper is most likely the best value for a small amount of money. Cakewalk for free is a no-brainer.

Trying to convince everyone that some particular DAW is the end-all-be-all is typical internet nonsense.

Buy what is useful to you.

Billy

Well said Billy. A few years back I was using a product called Multitrackstudios, It is still around today. I used it then because it was perfect for my needs at the time. I will say it tracked simple projects far easier than anything else I tried at the time. It treats audio and midi the same when it comes to FX. Very analog approach but fully digital. I moved on when I started really using BiaB. That’s when I started with studio one because I got the Artist version with my interface. It is a great DAW. I also used Realband a lot along then because I was doing live shows on street jelly each week and playing for small gatherings. I made backing tracks in Realband and used the jukebox to play them. I now use Jamzone if I play for a audience. So my needs changed again.

I love Studio one, Cakewalk, Realband, Reaper, and now Mixbus is tickling my fancy. At the heart of most projects is BiaB and the BiaB plugin. I know some don’t like the plugin but for me it flat out gets stuff done quick and easy. It lets me put RTs in my projects super easy. I can’t imagine how long projects would take if I had to go back and create them with midi or by playing them.

The first collaboration I did with a friend a few years back I actually played the drum track on my computer keyboard! Sure is easy to grab an RD track, or grab the midi file and send it through EZDrummer.

Studio One Artist is, I think, $99. It also comes free with many of their audio interfaces, which are very good. Since v5, the Artist version supports 3rd party VSTs, so it's no longer necessary to pay extra for that support. Artist doesn't include many of PreSonus virtual instruments, but if you're not using them now, that is no big deal.

A Reaper license for home or small business use is $60, and is good for two major versions. I had a license that covered v4 and v5, and chose to buy a new one to cover v6 and v7. That was FOUR years ago, and Reaper is still on v6. That's a bargain.

Studio One issues a major version update every 2-3 years, which I purchase. Much more reasonable that what Steinberg does with Cubase.

If it is purely a money issue, you can't beat Reaper. But for an extra $40, Studio One Artist is great bang for the buck. And, as mentioned previously, the workflow in Studio One is a lot more straightforward than it is in Reaper. Just check out Kenny Gioia's excellent Reaper videos on YouTube. No other DAW has that level of resource available. I watch his new videos on release, but, holy smokes, they leave me overwhelmed sometimes. Just the number and size of the text menus in Reaper is eyewatering. In Studio One? Drag and drop almost anything anywhere.

And don't get me going on the black hole for time that is themes for Reaper. A DAW should be used for making music, not playing with the GUI.

Ditto that. I search his archives whenever I need to learn something new in Reaper or something I forgot.

Studio one i have tracked about a dozen serious projects in and maybe 40 or 50 little ones. I am super familiar with it. Reaper not so much really. I do like Reaper for it's basic look and flexibility. My problem is the routing. it can be overwhelming and confusing. I think sometimes Reaper shoots it's self in the foot simply by it's own nature. It is kind of user driven to a large part. Sometimes that can be a double edged sword.

Bottom line is all these excellent programs do a cool job. One just has to find a workflow that suits them, at a price point that make sense.

Here is Kenny taking on that topic. Maybe this would help.

Billy used a word I like: intuitive. Yes, your choice of a DAW is about the workflow, but when choosing one, which one is more intuitive to the way you want to work? I use BIAB every day, but I do not use a DAW every day. When I do, I don't want to fight with it.

When I was looking for a DAW was when this forum started to light up with coding to get something to work with Reaper and Band In A Box.

It did not happen with Studio One so that is when I joined up. Both Studio One and BIAB is working exactly as I would like it to do.

If I want to code, I can go back to work.

...Deb

Sorry to hear that, unfortunately we have no control over all that nonsense.

Yeah when i use either Reaper Studio one, or Mixbus i don't alter them. I don't try to modify them to do other things. I leave them standard except maybe chose a theme i like from the company. I don't want to fiddle with options i want to complete projects. They all do that quite nicely.

Dan, IMHO it is not nonsense. It is just forum members trying to improve PGMusic products. It can be in the forum of coding suggestions, trying to solve other members' problems, or through the wish list forum.

Here's a short vid summarizing the workflow improvements for 6.2.

[I've always loved this guy's studio; looks like he's the commander of a musical starship.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUvvXrzzCig

Nice video: short, clear. Thanks for posting.

About his rig, if he ever decides to leave his present work, I suspect he could get a flight controller job at LAX.

Or the bridge of the enterprise!

I always thought Spock and Lt. Uhura had something going on

It just wasn’t logical!

This wasn't about Reaper but about making BIAB work better with ANY DAW - the case study has been Reaper becasue that's the one the code writer works in.
musocity is frustrated with the lack of progress by BIAB in general integration terms. I use Reaper and read all of his posts but have only employed one aspect as I don't have his frustration levels using the two programs.
The very good mix & mastering engineer from White Sea Studio, who is now on youtube, uses Reaper. It suits his work flow, matches industry standards and allows him to communicate with a wider audience.
Kenny & Cockos have joined together to provide stellar support for Reaper. If they sold a DVD set I'd buy it.

LOL I came here to ask if S1 has any information now on it's scripting.




It's funny how users ask for things and I have helped them out so many times, whether it's getting midi chord markers in scaler or making an Autohotkey script for them to use in RealBand or so many other things, but you ask them for help and you get ZERO and just get used.
Why have you got a BBPlugin now ??? where did that come from ??? why have you got so many features in Biab that you now use ???
It's death at it's best with ZERO awareness, the blind leading the blind.
It's only going to come back and bite, only then will the learning kick in.
Again and Again it's the main reason Biab has been held back in the past, old guard holding it back. Krystal Audio Engine 2004 (Studio Zero) it had non destructive editing and played files direct, where were you guys then ? you sure weren't giving this info to PG, you have just held it back to the current state it's in because you didn't open your mouth and those that did were cancelled and got rid of through protectionism, ask yourself.
Wake up guys to the reason I'm here, before the big wake up call comes.
The forum don't "light up", the forum is dead if you haven't noticed.
LOL there are more posts in just the Reaper scripting forum.
I have looked for info on Studio One scripting but there is none WHY ?
I have been over the Ardour forum trying to get them to create a GUI for their Lua scripting bindings as they only allow you to add a few scripts to the script menu.


Again I have been posting all that info for years n years, the very "coding" they are complaining about but if PG post it only then is it legit, wow thanks PG we didn't know that, honestly ? ask yourself. It's the same deal with Playable RealTracks "wow PG thanks, we didn't know that could be done. Again another example of me posting all the information on how to do this years n years before, but unless it's PG it's not legit, just a crazy coding loony


Mario knows what the story is as his eyes and heart are open.


exactly !

HaHa! Very clever.
And rumor has it that Dr. McCoy caught a glimpse of some hanky panky in the cargo bay somewhere around star date 1207.3

I normally do not reply to a post from musocity, whom several of us believe may also be pipeline and also solid rock. I find it odd he would quote me from another thread, not even this one, saying those heartless words to Andrew “thank you”.

I am a user, not a PG Music staffer. A longtime user, and a longtime beta tester, and a past consultant, but still just a user. Unless I am absolutely sure of something, I’m not going to answer someone’s question representing that my answer is absolutely true. When I’m not sure, I say so, but in that other thread I went farther: I took the time to contact the developers directly to get the correct answer, then I thanked Andrew for posting the answer in that other thread. I am not going to rely on what I might remember or infer from the long posts of another user.

Sound familiar ?
I posted a lot about that, showed it working and showed ways to do it many times, but there was near zero interest or responses.
BUT with "Play Direct" I posted that millions of times in millions of different ways, simple and complex with so many GIFs n videos, flow charts, showing how Biab creates the track data, pieces the track section together in RAM from that data, showed SFZ's in Sforzando VST playing the RealTracks sections live, direct and instant, arms had to be twisted just to get users to try them for themselves and let me know if it worked for them, even users I have helped out when they needed help would not step up.

BUT what response was there in all those years ? near ZERO.
Where are you guys ? PG post something and you are right up there.

It is really NO baffling mystery why Biab is so far behind is it ?
You need to encourage the developers more to lift their game up rather than accepting things how they are for so long and then get rid of users who try to improve it with that dirty word "change".
Colored MIDI notes for chord-scale-passing, Blasphemy !
Not accepting new users for testing because they just want to "change" things.
Hence Old Guard.

If you really want to know the answer as to why we respond to PG and not to you? I will tell you but you have to respond back with respect and not another name calling attack! No more calling people out as “old guard” and such. Have you not noticed that very few will even respond to you post at all anymore? You have to ask yourself “WHY?”

Here is the true answer. You don’t show the proper respect to the people who run PGM. You don’t show the proper respect to those who came before you here. You come up with a lot of interesting and some really cool ideas. But rather than just float them out there and see what PGM does with them, you almost demand that they accept them and make those changes to the program.
Then when you don’t get the response from other you want you resort to a full scale assault on the subject as if this is your company and you make the decisions.

You may be able to script and cobble together things pasting two or three odd looking scripts/apps/programs to get it to do something. You never take into consideration whether that is best for the rest of the BiaB world, or just meets what you and a small handful of people want. You have no idea how this stuff would affect the program now or going forward. Still you power on.

Look I am amazed at some of the things you create. You are truly a talent when it comes to this stuff. You obviously put a lot of time into what you do. Maybe a tribute to your time working with Reaper.

BiaB has to work with more than reaper, studio one, cakewalk, Cubase, Protools, bitwing, reason, FLstudio, and at least 20 others that the users prefer. I bet 80% of those don’t use scripts. So those things would have to be hard coded into the program. It may not be as easy as you or I might think. Just because you can patch it together does make it viable for the big picture.

Make your point then show the respect for others that you expect for yourself. You may find they reciprocate better. And please stop calling those who disagree Old guard! It is offensive and uncalled for. Everyone has a right to their opinions.

By the way I really do like the graphics you designed for a more modern look website. That was sharp. It looks like you used a screen shot from what Avid? Pretty cool look. I will say the PG website is better looking now than it was before the last refresh.

There you have it. I hope you don’t get offended. I just trying to be real with you out of respect for you. I remember way back when you told me in a thread that you just wanted to get on with making music. I suggest you do that and let your creative side help lower your frustration. You have made your point let it go and accept the decisions are made outside of our reach.

Muso, you STILL don't understand, do you?

PG software CREATES the music. Does reaper? Pro Tools? FL Studio, Etc...?

PG isn't trying to be anybody else. Their product is to CREATE tracks. Then you are free to move them anywhere you like. Jus do it. If PG's stuff is wrong to you, write your own program that includes music generation powers AND is the most killer DA ever.

But please stop your public whining.

I never thought I would see anybody less popular than me on these forums.

I was wrong.

I don't know Eddie I think we all like you here. What's not to like! I mean your EDDIE for crying out loud!

On the other subject I like SolidMusoPipeCityLine. Seriously I do, I appreciate his passion and the fact he has contributed some great ideas to the mix. I also appreciate that he has helped many people learn more about these programs. Where I differ with him is in the approach. You simply can't demand that a company do things your way unless you own that company. I can't tell Ford they should do things like Nissan, and if they don't get upset and tell ford users who like fords that they are old Guards stopping progress. It's not my place. I can send them a message by several methods. letter Email, phone, or by buying a Nissan. However, in the end I have to respect their right to do business their way. Only they truly know what is possible and what is not.

If someone like the Toontracks products better, you can let PGM know respectfully what you like about it and allow them the dignity to decide what they want to implement or not. If that doesn't work spend your money there.

There is the old saying, "Don't shoot the messenger". Rob, I hope you do not incur any blowback, or (heavens), get called one of the old guard holding things back. Unfortunately, sometimes the problem really isn't the message, it's the messenger. And that is tragic here.

By the way, everyone, my Studio One 6.2 is running very nicely. I think that was what this thread was supposed to be about.

It would be a bad thing for PG to get so mired in one person's constant complaining to a level where they stop focusing on what they do at this high level. I'd prefer to see them expend their energy into finding fresh faces to provide samples for Real Tracks than worrying about trying to become Reaper's stepchild. I am Brent Masoned out.

I had a friend who used to constantly tell me how bad Two Broke Girls was when it was on the air. I watched it a few times ONLY because the one girl had a great rack. The writing was trite and the lead actresses had AWFUL timing in delivering their lines. I watched maybe 3 times. As I told him once when the whining became annoying, you cable box has a tuner on it and you are free to NOT watch it if you don't like it. Find a show that you actually find funny.

Similarly, if you don't like PG, you are free to stop using it. Just also STOP WHINING to us JUST to hear your voice. NOBODY CARES what you think. If you don't like it, stop using it and leave the forums rather than spreading your musical version of hate speech here. Go find something else to create your backing tracks.

There are what, 1 or 2 other choices IN THE WORLD that can do what this stuff does. Pick one.

But however you choose to proceed, stop your public complaining. You are the forum version of the pop culture reference to "Karen". Man, I'd expect that at your age you would be way more mature than you are. Sit in your little dungeon and code up your little tools to cobble together what you want PG to be, but stop boring us with your self centered blathering.

My father became quite sick when he was about 68. When he did, he was mad at the world and made sure to make everybody aware how angry at the world he was. You remind me of him. That is not a compliment.

Man, my Ignore List is longer than my Buddy List now. Between the Karens and the blowhard braggards who keep telling us that they ALMOST made it and that they play 39 gigs a week ("And YOU don't! So nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah, you peasants!") or famous people they claim to have known 200 years ago in high school...

Yes.
It was to inform S1 users that might not check their email frequently, or maybe have Presonus emails diverted to a spam folder that a .2 update was available.

One pre-6.2 behaivor that bugged me was when the cursur hit the End flag it would just keep on going, presumably forever. Now you can right-click it and in the menu, select "Stop at marker" and the cursor will now stop when it reaches the End flag . . . just what I want it to do.

Wow! How to respond/involve one's self in one of these conversations?

For many years we have had a pretty polite and civil forum. It has in fact become more contenious with an increasing amount of unwanted comments.

We all like you, Eddie, you are a pain in the butt at times, but we still like you...lol

There are a couple of other people here who have the effect of causing some of us to just disengage and threads just die as a result. That is not just my take on things but what others also have said to me in PMs.

If you don't like PG Music products, don't buy them. If you want to yell and call people names go to the pound and get yourself a dog and leave us alone.

If we don't control this forum ourselves it will become less and less of a fun/useful place to come to.

Cheers,

Billy

This goes way way back, the same pattern of protectionism.
I asked for simple things like a Solo button on each track for RealBand, and rather than a simple +1 there is all sorts of comments like why would you need this it's fine how it is, fighting resistance.
New guys come ask for improvements and "why Would you need this, it's fine, go away" and there is usually a "gang up" on them.
The most amazing thing, after all this time they still don't get it and see exactly why these products have been held back by "Old Guard" mentality, if users still do this then they are old guard, if not then they are enlightened.
I could die tomorrow BUT you will still have the same problem.
I could of left the forum for good way back then like so many do with negative responses of protectionism, as I delete accounts because I say why bother, but then I come back and try again and again and have not given up, WHY ? is it all done for "ME" what I want personally ?
R.E.S.P.E.C.T ? where was it.
It's not an easy thing to do for one person to bring about change for the better for "everyone", is it ?

I liken it to what is going on in the USA, someone gets who is brash and tells the truth as he sees whats going on and looks to make things better and actually does that (and looses millions from being in and not make millions like the current one), but the old guard don't like it and does every illegal, evil thing to get rid of him and succeeds. Now what state is it in ? a better state or a worse state ? has there been enlightenment coming from learning the hard way ? YES ! is the truth coming out ? YES !
I did not need to learn the hard way as I instantly discerned that ages ago.

I have mostly used Reaper lately but I also have the older Studio One 3 Prof,so I just upgraded it to
Studio One 6.2. The upgrade price was $153.

You are the only one who seems to have a problem.



How do you delete accounts? I once ASKED to have my account completely deleted and was told that because of my level of activity they couldn't do that, as it would require going into threads and deleting my input. It was suggested that I simply forget the site exists and not come here anymore. That might be a solution for you, though you really seem to enjoy arguing with people. Again, reminding me of my father. And again, that's not a compliment.



Huh? I first bought this thing 14 years ago and it has been there in the Real Band DAW since day one.

You are trying to turn PG into something it isn't, and trying to recruit people to get on your bandwagon. The mission for PG is to create and sell software meant to CREATE backing tracks. Nothing else does what PG does. Everything you are ranting about is functions of a DAW, not a music GENERATION tool. Generate your tracks, Move them to your DAW of choice and enjoy your fudging.

As I suggested in an earlier post, if you don't like what PG is, tool up, sharpen your pencil, put on your propellerhead beanie and put those coding skills you brag about to work as you write your own software. And if it's better than Real Band I will buy it.

I would welcome the internet side nerds at PG to track the IPs of this post and see how many accounts Muso has. I think it's at least 2, possibly 3. Isn't there some kind of statement in the TOS about multiple accounts?

A lot of people are tired of this nonsense. Only a few of us have the juevos to speak out about it.

I have been told several times that if I didn't like it here I was free to leave. I just thought this might be a good place to point that out.

This software isn't Reaper. It isn't Cubase. It isn't Pro Tools. It isn't DL Studio. It isn't Studio 1. (Or Studio 54.) Get over it.

Look everyone can have an opinion. But thinking you are the only one with the answers, and your way is the only way and anyone who dares to oppose, or resist is wrong, and you are always right!?!?! there is a name for that! it is called Narcissist.

Now before you go off the rails and blow a fuse, I am not calling you one. I am suggesting you might dial it down about three or four notches and try to get on with life. it is simply not your job to change another man's company to suit your views.

This all I have to say on the subject. I will not respond further. Peace be with you.

Why use Studio One ??? when you have POWER||TRACKS PRO AUDIO it's worked fine for 30 years all that time.
Why are we even talking about Studio One ???

Why are you using Reaper Rob and not POWER||TRACKS PRO AUDIO ?

Is there a problem ?

you delete the email account it's linked to.

day one ? tell him Rob. Thanks Eddie I'm glade you enjoy the Solo Buttons.


I'm not coming here and rubbishing it and leaving with some phoney IP that needs to be track down because of all the terrible, horrible things I do, I put a hell of a lot of work into making it better, I go out of my way to do this. I have a PG purchasing account that has all my info.
I openly tell users I had solidrock pipeline to go look at posts for UserTracks and other helpful info.
It's like saying I ignore and don't use math out of spite because I didn't like my math teacher at school, or use a saw because of my woodwork teacher was an &%$^*
"For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth"

No one here has explained why the software is behind, no one, WHY ??
Guys you are exposing it all by your own statements.
I'm not stupid I have been here long enough to see how it works from day one, the truth may hurt but none the less it's the truth.
Anyone that doesn't do that in any way then you are not old guard and have nothing to worry about.
Those that do still do that through lack of understanding, there is still hope for enlightenment.
At the end of the day when I'm not here anymore giving you a hard time, what are all the things you will be left with, what will you then have ? real time signatures ? more than 256 bars ? decimal tempo maps ? non destructive editing ? BBPlugin Instant Generation, Playing Direct Instantly ? 48/24 bit audio ? crossplatform ? Biab Live Arranger using plugin code ?
not to mention so many things you have got already, all because one guy came here asking nicely for improvements, was given crap, nearly left for good but came back and stood up to all the crap to get the job done.
There were so many guys that wanted Rewire, I got that all sorted now because I kept pushing for VstTimeInfo for EZDrummer etc.. then eventually 10 years later it was implemented, so I went looking for all the Rewire guys to let them know that a RewireVST will now work but they were all gone probably were all the other forum users have suddenly gone.
Yes guys get rid of him, track his IP down. OMG do you hear yourself, is it a baffling mystery still ?

I own Reason, BiaB and Studio One. I say „own“, because I do not use these things much.
But I see a pattern repeating in user forums.

Reason was born as a “Rack” of Virtual Instruments
BiaB was born as a Music Generator
And DAWS (IMHO a successor of the old MIDI Sequencer) are born as virtual recording Studios
Notation Software was born as a kind of “Word processor” for Music.
And so on …

In the Reason Forum, many users demand that the vendor should make the Instrument Rack a better DAW.
In the BiaB Forum many users demand that the vendor should make the Music Generator a better DAW.

I do not see this much with DAW users, maybe because in the analogue recording studio world you brought your musicians, your instruments, your notation and maybe some gear along. You just wanted to have enough inputs for the instruments and gear and enough channels to host the music.

Each of the vendors have a core business. And it is good advice to strengthen your strengths (the core business) and not to strengthen your weaknesses (e.g. the lacking DAW capabilities).

All I would ask for, is good interaction between all this pieces (e.g. MIDI, ASIO, MCP, ARA, to name a random few) and to enhance (when needed) the Core functions.
And that would a better use of time and effort.

Just my 2 cents.

If I use my stuff, I use the generator part of BiaB, the Virtual instruments from Reason (and others), Notation software that interacts with my DAW, a MIDI Controller that is nicely integrated and some very specialized tools (e.g. Melodyne) that behave as integral part of the whole setup. That way, each tool does what it does best.

I was wondering, is there the option to BLOCK someone?

Yes, you can get a browser plugin that will block all post from any user.

Studio One Chords to BBPlugin and Biab
Studio One Chords from Biab Plugin

Yes. If you click on the user's name (upper left of a post), then View Profile, you will see an option to Ignore This User.

Ohhhh, Thank you, Matt. Ignore works wonders!

...Deb

Does anyone know where justanoldmuso is ? have you seen or heard from him ?
Last I saw him he was trying to bring about change and make RealBand better but was getting GANGED up on.
I would help him out with ideas and prototype designs.
I can't even find the last posts he made about it all.
I guess it's another one got rid of, another one bites the dust, heaven forbid if you try to bring about change, that sends a strong message.

Here is a useful tip I found on YouTube on how to disable the very disturbing NewsFeed that is coming up everytime one starts Studio One.

I guess it also stops the check for updates through the help menu, but then it is only to turn on access through the firewall again.

If there is an easier way I would be interested to know, I find the forced News Feed very disturbing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ccgZssWA5Y&list=LL&index=1

News feed? I don’t see anything like that. I see a very long list of things as they are checked/connected but that’s all.

I’ll read your article.

Do you have Sphere (I do not)?

Ok, I watched the video and now I understand. It’s the in-software messages/ads, and he shows how to block any program from communicating by using the Windows firewall. Well, ok.

I had to chuckle because the video guy says he is easily distracted. I must have laser focus because these messages didn’t even register for me, but I do have two questions:

1) is Studio One ‘phoning home’ taking up bandwidth or processing power? I would think, yes, and it’s worth blocking for that reason. You don’t want anything else running when using your DAW.

2) wouldn’t this disable automatic startup checking for updates? I have to admit, I like that feature. I assume it checks at startup then goes quiet, but that might be wrong. I’ve never even checked using the menu as you mentioned, because between the email and the startup message about an update, I never needed to. I would hope the program isn’t constantly checking for an update as you use it. Perhaps the way to find out is to go to the firewall and then run Studio One to see what error messages pop up.

Thanks for your post!

I also have a list rolling of the things as they are connected. It is in the mid section of the screen.

But the News Feed is rolling on the right column of the screen (the first startup screen).

I don't have Sphere.

It seems that many people want to get rid of it but I don't think it is configurable.

Interesting that you don't have it, maybe it is configurable in some way after all, but I haven't found it.

Yes it blocks the check for update via the help menu at least. I don't know if it is blocket during startup. Anyway I can unlock it when I want to check for updates. I really find the news feed very disturbing.

I understand now. I’m glad it helps you.

if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

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Because of the forum lighting up with "coding"

As I have said, long after I have gone users will be using all these features and functions, including those complaining about me posting stuff and telling the truth ! If they don't want to use them out of spite I can make up a list of things in Biab and BBPlugin from over the 14 years that they can avoid, or better still just use the 2009 version:
Band-in-a-Box® Version 2009 and 2009.5 Update - Build 288

I see now why I can’t read the truth: I’m blind. Thanks, that really helps.