Highjacked thread, I'll start it over if we want to discuss this

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There was a post that got totally off track and Happy Trails and I took it on out to the "Outer Limits".

Here are our last few posts. Happy Trails posted 1, 2, &3. One of my posts is the last one. Just look back to the previous posts to follow the whole thing.

I'm just wondering, what do the rest of you think?

(1) Locked in a safe? Over here we keep our guns within reach. And we have 20,000 gun deaths a year to prove it!

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(2) Capitalism is an engine that depends on useless consumption and waste.

Communism sounds good on paper but it is completely against human nature and requires a repressive government to enforce it.

Socialism is in between. People cannot live together without a certain level of socialism.

But either way, 1% of the people end up getting rich off the work of the other 99%.

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(3) Well you can ask God for whatever you like - (semi) free country.. Personally I see no conection between God and the USA and have little use for patriotism or religion. But I support your right to!

And - I'd never belong to club with such low standards that it'd allow me to join!

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Happy Trails,

Whether you or I like it or want it, God has blessed the USA.

I'm not a paticularly religous person, but I do believe in giving credit where credit is due.

I am however a VERY patriotic person. All I have to do is look at the sacrifices my dad made for his country and the opportunities it gives both of us to speak our minds.

So when I say "God Bless the USA", it not as much a request as it is a desire for God to continue to do what He's already been doing.

So please keep speaking your mind, but please find someone to thank for that privilege, whether it's God, the forefathers or the veterans; (like my dad); who have given you the blessing of speaking freely without fear of someone breaking down your door because you have said what you think.

I'm pretty much a "party hardy" guy, but I do feel indebted to those who've given us the chance to speak freely.

Bob
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Hunter S. Thompson quote (I love this)

The above is the thread of the original post on "off topic".

Bob

Yeah...
I saw what I think to be some pretty disgusting opinions.
I just love the "ignore user" feature!

Bob, why is this discussion in a music forum? Seems to me there are more suitable places on the 'net.

Why don't you all fff-fade away....(the Who)

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Why don't you all fff-fade away....(the Who)

and don't try to dig what we all sssssssay.

Noel,

I didn't start the thread this sprang from, (see the Hunter S. Thompson thread), and if you will notice I put in the subject line "if we want to discuss".

I do enjoy discussing off topic things with the folks in the PG family because I at least know something about numerous people in the family because of years of reading many posts and participating in those discussions, several of which had nothing to do with music.
It's simply musicians talking about various topics.

It's more interesting than talking to total strangers.

If you don't like the topic, then do the same thing I do. Ignore it.

Bob

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... several of which had nothing to do with music

Just a quick and friendly reminder about Forum Rules #9.

"The Off Topic forum is used for MUSIC-RELATED discussions that aren't about PG Music products." (PG Music's emphasis)

http://www.pgmusic.com/forum_rules.htm

You can take the alligator out of the swamp(very carefully) but can't take the swamp out of the gator.
What I mean is it all influences our music and when you deal with something as nebulous as music life continually barges in and changes our temperament.
So I'm not worried by the occasional trip in the swamp,but i sure don't want to live there.
To me, music is about questioning life and where we fit in, others may disagree and that's valid to.
Just two cents and change Wyndham

I agree it is, Windham, often. And sometimes it's just about sitting so contendedly and watcin' the river flow.

I actually live in an old swamp bog...converted into an RV Park called "Enchanted Lakes", here in Malabar, Florida. This is where I live and love with my faithful Cairne Terrior, "Tiger"...in our 35 ' FifthWheel with a 350 Ford Powerstroke parked outside....with a 17' Osage aluminum canoe balanced on top of it!! With Walther tucked in one pocket and my Real Tracks downloaded into the Samsung Comeback
Phone/Mp3 player...I portage over (like hell, I drive!!) to Turkey Creek, an alligator sanctuary a few miles away. Love to paddle my ornery-ass down the river a bit early every morn, while "Tiger" keeps watch for all the "floating logs".
The best things in life are free! As Alfred Newman said, "What Me Worry"???
And let's have another chorus of...."Happy Days Are Here Again...The skies above are ...........
Hey, I must have mentioned something musical in these-here-threads ... at least a few times in the past week or two!!

Lot of good songs written about swamps and the Bayou. Tony Joe White, CCR come to mind first.

I grew up in the coastal area of SC and the moonshiners used to have their stills in HellHole swamp where black bears, halamagators(musical ref to the song " Audubon Park") and a few revenuers lived.
Beautiful, peaceful but "Stinks to high blue Heaven" (musical ref "Dead Skunk in the middle of the Road", a Texas treasured song).... I just don't want to live there.
Wyndham

Kind of reminds me of the smugglers around the south coast of England in the late Middle Ages when the import duties were too much for the French and Spanish wines and brandies, thus virtually creating a prohibition on foreign wines and spirits. The contraband would be smuggled in during the night and deposited in lakes and ponds so that the taxmen could not find them. Then, when the coast was clear (literally), they would be pulled out of the water and sent on their way to London or Bristol or wherever. Once, they were caught in the act (presumably when the barrels were still under water) but the smugglers thought quickly and claimed they were 'raking in the moon' the taxmen believed them! Hence the term 'Moonraker' and this probably was the basis of Ian Fleming's idea for James Bond. Thus leading to the James Bond title song for the film of the same name sung by Shirley Bassey

So that's where the expression "the coast is clear" comes from!

And yet, governments continue to believe if they outlaw something there's a damand for, they can keep it from people.

Twenty years ago today - Freedom. The DDR effectively outlawed the West from 1961 but the Berlin Wall fell...

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"The Off Topic forum is used for MUSIC-RELATED discussions that aren't about PG Music products." (PG Music's emphasis)

Absolutely, Matt

Couldn't agree more.
But threads like this will continue to spring up for as long as the moderators don't pull the plug on them.

Pull the thread if you want, for me and my part, it's just a light hearted respite in an all too serious time.
" as my green scales fall like rain, I'll beat a hasty retreat to the cave"
sometime nonsense is good sense, just my two cents, later Wyndham

I plead guilty of drifting off a music related topic in a few posts...

But those that indicate that there are plenty of politically oriented forums out there are correct. Been on a few myself.

I'm holding on to the theory that music is primarly a unifying force rather than a dividing one. I lurk here mostly, but I've seen a lot of real heart-felt support for folks here on this forum, and I'd like to see that continue. Let's not let our personal political, philisophical, or religious views divide us from each other.

Rather, let us allow the music to inspire and unite us.

I have strong opinions on a LOT of stuff...but perhaps this isn't the place to express the non-music ones.

Peace.

+1 Brother! Hear, hear!

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Pull the thread if you want, for me and my part, it's just a light hearted respite in an all too serious time.
" as my green scales fall like rain, I'll beat a hasty retreat to the cave"
sometime nonsense is good sense, just my two cents, later Wyndham

2nd!