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Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) #16569 03/09/09 03:01 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 54 T TromboneAl OP Enthusiast
OP TromboneAl Enthusiast T Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 54	I have version 10 of BIAB, and I've had this maddening problem for years. Using the ZZJAZWAL style, for example, I'll set the melody instrument to Acoustic Piano, and record a chorus. When I play it back, it switches the melody instrument to Vibes. How can I prevent that? Thanks! Al

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) TromboneAl #16570 03/09/09 03:56 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,939 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,939 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Version 10 is many years ago, but I'll try. First, when you change the patch for the melody instrument, do a File, Save With Patches & Harmony and - Here's the Tip - make sure to do this command while the song is still playing. Second, some styles have patch changes built in. If the tip above does not work, then you will need to go to Options, Preferences and find the MIDI option menu for version 10 that says something like Allow Style Patch Changes, and uncheck that checkbox. There is also a Global Override preference for this in later versions, but I'm pretty sure version 10 did not have that. Let us know if this works for you. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) Matt Finley #16571 03/09/09 08:41 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Shastastan Expert Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,259 CA	This issue is ticking me off as well. I thought that it was just limited to styles with real tracks, but I had the problem today. I really appreciate the tip on how to change this. However, the vibes are always what I'm trying to get. Who would want some stupid trumpet sound? Ooops! Forgot to mention that I'm a trumpet player. Stan Cornet Curmudgeon

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) Shastastan #16572 03/11/09 09:41 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP TromboneAl Enthusiast T Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 54	Many thanks, Matt! Solution one did not work but solution two did the trick.

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) TromboneAl #16573 03/11/09 09:44 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,939 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Great, thanks. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) Matt Finley #16574 03/11/09 09:52 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 8,333 London, Ontario, Canada John Conley Veteran
John Conley Veteran Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 8,333 London, Ontario, Canada	Sometimes there is a hidden midi command in the file that dictates what instrument comes in. I have picked up 3rd party songs that require a manual edit of the midi in the lead in bars or first bar in order to override it. On the other hand you should be able to make a change at a bar and have it stick. Using the Save with Patches and harmony you have to hit the button to load the patches first, then once the numbers are in the boxes for melody etc. do the save. John Conley Musica est vita

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) John Conley #16575 03/11/09 12:12 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Shastastan Expert Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,259 CA	Many thanks for that additional tip re: 3rd party songs. We use them a lot. Stan Cornet Curmudgeon

Re: Help: Always switches back to Vibes! (V10) Shastastan #16576 03/11/09 01:44 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,939 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	John has a very useful tip. Over the years, there have been many 'Why can't I' posts here, where it turns out someone is working with an imported MIDI file with embedded patch changes. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

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