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In the wake of this whole 'competition' thing coming to an end, I started thinking about why people share their own personal work on here. What are your incentive, drive or motivations for sharing?
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what " whole 'competition' thing coming to an end"?
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The question is not "why", it is "why not?"
... and there is never any competition. PG music has awarded free upgrades based on community participation and uses of BIAB -- not on who has the best songs.
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The reason to share songs is to get some feedback and ways to improve studio techniques.Very valuable in my opinion. Disadvantage is its an extremely small community and virtually no one outside the forum has a chance to hear it, unless you put it on youtube or release a cd, which needs to be advertised.
In my opinion a good way is to put a song on youtube, not a lot of hits usually mean not a very popular song whereas a song with a good few thousand views and a good number of shares will give you a feeling that you are doing something right.
I have gone off soundcloud because I think the listener nowadays is looking for a visual as well, and in my opinion any video is better than none at all.
Would probably have been better to have started this thread in the off-topic forum.
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Icelander,
there are probably as many different answers to that question as there are people posting songs.
Here's my guess from the perspective of somebody who lurks but doesn't post.
At first most people probably post as a lark. Some may post to see if they win a free copy of BIAB... but whatever their original reason might have been, I think most people end up posting because the forum has become a place where friends get together after work to fellowship in a variety of ways around the topic of music... specifically, music created with PGFMusic software.
If not for the friendship aspect, forum activity tends to die off. We are fortunate here to have a bunch of people who are natural encouragers. I dare say everybody feels welcome here, and appreciated. If they don't, they choose not to, because the forum certainly does not send critical vibes to anyone as far as I can see.
Some people in other forums are very protective of their creations and don't want to post them publicly for fear that someone will steal them and get rich. But I think the general consensus here is "good luck with that"
This is one place where a song writer can get a guaranteed global audience for his/her music, get good feedback from knowledgeable other song writers, form relationships with other talented people, and be respected and liked by a lot of people who didn't used to be friends, but now they are.
I think those are all really good reasons.
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Icelander,
there are probably as many different answers to that question as there are people posting songs.
Here's my guess from the perspective of somebody who lurks but doesn't post.
At first most people probably post as a lark. Some may post to see if they win a free copy of BIAB... but whatever their original reason might have been, I think most people end up posting because the forum has become a place where friends get together after work to fellowship in a variety of ways around the topic of music... specifically, music created with PGFMusic software.
If not for the friendship aspect, forum activity tends to die off. We are fortunate here to have a bunch of people who are natural encouragers. I dare say everybody feels welcome here, and appreciated. If they don't, they choose not to, because the forum certainly does not send critical vibes to anyone as far as I can see.
Some people in other forums are very protective of their creations and don't want to post them publicly for fear that someone will steal them and get rich. But I think the general consensus here is "good luck with that"
This is one place where a song writer can get a guaranteed global audience for his/her music, get good feedback from knowledgeable other song writers, form relationships with other talented people, and be respected and liked by a lot of people who didn't used to be friends, but now they are.
I think those are all really good reasons. Well said...
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I just want to know what other people think of them.
Appreciate constructive criticism! Cheers.
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Icelander,
there are probably as many different answers to that question as there are people posting songs.
Here's my guess from the perspective of somebody who lurks but doesn't post.
At first most people probably post as a lark. Some may post to see if they win a free copy of BIAB... but whatever their original reason might have been, I think most people end up posting because the forum has become a place where friends get together after work to fellowship in a variety of ways around the topic of music... specifically, music created with PGFMusic software.
If not for the friendship aspect, forum activity tends to die off. We are fortunate here to have a bunch of people who are natural encouragers. I dare say everybody feels welcome here, and appreciated. If they don't, they choose not to, because the forum certainly does not send critical vibes to anyone as far as I can see.
Some people in other forums are very protective of their creations and don't want to post them publicly for fear that someone will steal them and get rich. But I think the general consensus here is "good luck with that"
This is one place where a song writer can get a guaranteed global audience for his/her music, get good feedback from knowledgeable other song writers, form relationships with other talented people, and be respected and liked by a lot of people who didn't used to be friends, but now they are.
I think those are all really good reasons. Spot on, Pat - Carolyne
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Icelander,
there are probably as many different answers to that question as there are people posting songs.
Here's my guess from the perspective of somebody who lurks but doesn't post.
At first most people probably post as a lark. Some may post to see if they win a free copy of BIAB... but whatever their original reason might have been, I think most people end up posting because the forum has become a place where friends get together after work to fellowship in a variety of ways around the topic of music... specifically, music created with PGFMusic software.
If not for the friendship aspect, forum activity tends to die off. We are fortunate here to have a bunch of people who are natural encouragers. I dare say everybody feels welcome here, and appreciated. If they don't, they choose not to, because the forum certainly does not send critical vibes to anyone as far as I can see.
Some people in other forums are very protective of their creations and don't want to post them publicly for fear that someone will steal them and get rich. But I think the general consensus here is "good luck with that"
This is one place where a song writer can get a guaranteed global audience for his/her music, get good feedback from knowledgeable other song writers, form relationships with other talented people, and be respected and liked by a lot of people who didn't used to be friends, but now they are.
I think those are all really good reasons. Second that, Pat! You write the poetry right here on the reply!
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I'm curious as to why this wasn't posted in the "other stuff" forum 
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request has been made to have it moved to off-topic
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I'm curious as to why this wasn't posted in the "other stuff" forum Because so many of the people this was meant for don't ever go to many of the other forums. And I really do think it's ON topic here.
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request has been made to have it moved to off-topic
I wouldn't know how to 'move' an entire topic and entries of a thread. But if a moderator wishes it to be (re)moved and has the tools to do so, of course I won't dispute. I've got many sensible & valuable answers already as it is.
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I agree, this is OFF TOPIC... this forum is for posting the songs.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Thanks to whoever moved this thread to OFF TOPIC!
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I'm curious as to why this wasn't posted in the "other stuff" forum Because so many of the people this was meant for don't ever go to many of the other forums. And I really do think it's ON topic here. Here are the guidelines for that forum, as posted at the very top of the user showcase ... (note the very last item)
The User Showcase is an area where users of PG Music products (e.g. Band-in-a-Box or RealBand) can post links to their original song compositions, for others to listen to.
The songs must be originals, no copyrighted or "cover" songs. You must have all of the rights to the songs.
Start a new thread with each new song post. Don't add new songs to an existing thread.
With the posts, please provide:
Link to the song (it is not hosted on our site, it is hosted on your site).
Title and background information about the song.
Indicate which tracks were recorded by you, and which tracks were generated by Band-in-a-Box or RealBand.
If Band-in-a-Box or RealBand have been used, please provide information as to which styles or RealTracks were used. (tip: In Band-in-a-Box, the Song Memo contains the names of the RealTracks used, and you can copy/paste from that.)
List other programs used in the production (Sonar, Cubase etc.)
Describe what effects were used in the production (reverb, auto-tune etc).
Please limit the threads on this forum to the User Showcase postings. Off-topic threads will be moved to the off-topic forum
This basically means that ALL threads posted to this particular forum must be songs, not discussions (regardless of the topic's application to the forum)
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+1 on what Pat said.
Personally, I post my musical efforts here, being assured of fair and honest criticism by highly accomplished fellow musicians/songwriters, without fears of being flamed by snipers far less qualified than I.
Posting them here is like auditioning them before friends and family. I know, sans pain or tears, if a composition is worthy of more honing or amending.
I have never yet seen a posted song flamed by PGers. We have had a few trolls over the years but when they recognize the knowledge, wisdom, and talent assembled here they soon fade away.
OP, strive to be a bigger part of the PG Family and you'll worry less about plagiarism.
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I have not posted song links in a while as I have been in the process of completing a CD of the first batch and not writing as much. Plus I am in a dry spell. I post because I respect the people here who are better writers and players than I am and I welcome their feedback. I may be in the minority but I do NOT appreciate people blowing sunshine up my arse and telling be how great a song is when I know it pretty much stinks. There are those here and everywhere who will do that thinking they are protecting the writer's feelings. I prefer the truth, and 99% of the people here offer that truth. Even my pal Kevin who always says there is too much reverb!
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I have not posted song links in a while as I have been in the process of completing a CD of the first batch and not writing as much. Plus I am in a dry spell. I post because I respect the people here who are better writers and players than I am and I welcome their feedback. I may be in the minority but I do NOT appreciate people blowing sunshine up my arse and telling be how great a song is when I know it pretty much stinks. There are those here and everywhere who will do that thinking they are protecting the writer's feelings. I prefer the truth, and 99% of the people here offer that truth. Even my pal Kevin who always says there is too much reverb! even when the comments err on the side of what was RIGHT with a song... there's something to be learned from that too.
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I have not posted song links in a while as I have been in the process of completing a CD of the first batch and not writing as much. Plus I am in a dry spell. I post because I respect the people here who are better writers and players than I am and I welcome their feedback. I may be in the minority but I do NOT appreciate people blowing sunshine up my arse and telling be how great a song is when I know it pretty much stinks. There are those here and everywhere who will do that thinking they are protecting the writer's feelings. I prefer the truth, and 99% of the people here offer that truth. Even my pal Kevin who always says there is too much reverb! even when the comments err on the side of what was RIGHT with a song... there's something to be learned from that too. Perhaps..... the folks listening do not have the chops yet to figure out what is lacking in a mix or prefer NOT to get into that sort of discussion, or as Pat suggests, they like a song but perhaps don't exactly know how to properly phrase what is "right" or "wrong" about it..... so they simply say, it's a good song and that they like it. I will sometimes limit my comments and simple say... Good song and leave it at that. I know that many folks here are beginning and many do not yet use a DAW or the advanced tools that some here do have and use. Knowing that, I try to pace my comments based on where I perceive the poster's skill set to be. I also try to be as encouraging as I can be and I do not comment on every song that gets posted here. I want to be encouraging to all that I end up commenting on their music. I try to phrase things in a positive manner. As some of you know, I don't often pull my punches and prefer to give it straight as I hear things and often, someone else hears the same things and agrees. You don't learn if you don't think you're doing anything wrong. I appreciate the "atta-boys" but I really appreciate the folks who say, hey nice work ... but... the bass was too strong or too weak, the singer was flat, the fiddle didn't work in that part, the lyrics are not flowing smoothly, and other assorted comments and crits of the music. That's how I learn. Often, these are things I'm aware of, but get lazy and either didn't fix them or thought no one else would notice.....
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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