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reduce the size of the tool bars? #335860 02/10/16 07:21 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP pax-eterna Apprentice P Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 139	Is it somehow possible to reduce (or even remove) all the toolbars from the main page? I am planning on trying to use BIAB live and want to dedicate as much space as possible to the chord area. Thanks

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #335862 02/10/16 07:29 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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raymb1 Veteran Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2,607 Sterling, Va	Try "Control-T". Ray Asus Q500A i7 Win 10 64 bit 8GB ram 750 HD 15.5" touch screen, BIAB 2017, Casio PX 5s, Xw P1, Center Point Stereo SS V3 and EWI 4000s.

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #335865 02/10/16 07:34 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP pax-eterna Apprentice P Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 139	thanks - thats the idea, but I still need access to the mixer section for live balancing control. Although you tip might work if I can assign an external controller to control the mix...still investigating that in the midi spec for BIAB. cheers

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #335904 02/10/16 11:45 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musiclover Veteran Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,853 Derry,Ireland	Ctrl+shift+m will bring up the old type mixer in full screen, or just go to window top right and select it. Musiclover Musiclover My music https://www.youtube.com/user/donegalprideofall Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #336059 02/11/16 03:35 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,474 Melbourne, Australia	Write/email PG Music with a positive vote if you like this idea: BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #336069 02/11/16 05:29 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	You did a wonderful job of showing what could be done to modernize the interface, while retaining a lot of what we already know. A definite +1. I really like the retractable toolbars as well as the ability to pin them. Presonus Notion does something similar, except than rather than using a pin button to do so, it just lets you double click to keep it on the screen. Otherwise, the tools retract when you have finished using one of them. And yes, the floatable mixer should match exactly the features of the static mixer. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? AudioTrack #336104 02/11/16 10:31 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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ovation99 Apprentice Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 179 Hatfield, UK	+100 from me. Just perfect !! BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017 Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10 Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302, M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49. Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? AudioTrack #336138 02/11/16 01:45 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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musiclover Veteran Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,853 Derry,Ireland	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Write/email PG Music with a positive vote if you like this idea: Seem to remember Peter Gannon saying (if my memory serves me right) that this could work well in the full screen mode. I do think I would like a mixer all the time in the half screen mode, just to be able to get quick access to generate tracks etc, if its a dockable mixer then its going to obscure the chord chart when shown, which in my opinion would be a bit of an annoyance, but all the ideas in this video would be great I feel in full screen mode. Musiclover Last edited by musiclover; 02/11/16 01:49 PM. Musiclover My music https://www.youtube.com/user/donegalprideofall Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #336214 02/12/16 02:05 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,584 Pensacola, Florida	Seems to me that if the mixer stays on the main screen (and I can see valid reasons for that), it really should become a vertical, rather than a horizontal mixer. Otherwise, half the horizontal screen space being used by the mixer, leaving little room for the chord chart. If it became vertical, it could take up the full right side of the screen, leaving the entire left of the screen for tracks. Right now, it just takes up too much screen space, and heaven forbid you want to see the thru or audio track, which just pushes the chord grid down even further. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? jford #336241 02/12/16 04:24 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,474 Melbourne, Australia	Good idea with the vertical mixer to minimize the real-estate it currently takes up. Maybe flexible mixer options, a mixer that can be docked anywhere, floated, or hidden? This would have to please just about everyone. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? musiclover #336275 02/12/16 09:14 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,474 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: musiclover ... if its a dockable mixer then its going to obscure the chord chart when shown, which in my opinion would be a bit of an annoyance, but all the ideas in this video would be great I feel in full screen mode. Musiclover If it's a dockable mixer, the chord chart needs to change size so as not to have any of its display area obscured. It needs to be the same for any other controls. Even if the docking takes place on the right or left side, the chord chart must not become obscured. In the video, the chord chart reduces when any of the tool bars are made visible (the top is moved down). BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? AudioTrack #336396 02/13/16 02:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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MountainSide Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,382 Lake Keowee, South Carolina	This is a great idea! One of the best interfaces I've seen. I immediately sent an email to PG Music and asked them to look at this. Jeff Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2024, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #336766 02/15/16 11:19 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Skyline Veteran Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,426 Warwickshire, UK	I use hardly any of the tool bar icons and find it a real nuisance having them visible. I'm sure I recall a long while back you could 'deselect' ones you don't need to see, but this was oddly scrapped. Songs web site YouTube Channel BIAB 2019 Cakewalk by BandLab Studio One 4

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? Skyline #336768 02/15/16 11:56 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,474 Melbourne, Australia	Hi Skyline, if you like this idea, write to PG Music with your support. BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? AudioTrack #336895 02/16/16 05:04 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,444 NSW Australia Keith from Oz Veteran
Keith from Oz Veteran Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,444 NSW Australia	Hey Trev, What a set of great enhancements; you must have thought long & hard to come up with these. And a wonderful presentation too. I think you may have created Band In A Box 2017 It certainly gets my vote. Cheers, Keith

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? Keith from Oz #336903 02/16/16 07:14 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,474 Melbourne, Australia	Thanks Keith I had hoped I had created BiaB 2016, but that wasn't the case. There is however a log of support so, well, maybe 2017 will be the one. Thanks again for your support Trev BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: reduce the size of the tool bars? pax-eterna #336905 02/16/16 07:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,943 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	As I've commented each time this prototype surfaces, it would be amazing if BIAB could adopt these GUI ideas by VideoTrack. I think it would go a long way to addressing the perception by some that the program is great but the interface appears dated. It would also add some zing. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

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