|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
To clarify, it is my understanding that BIAB does not allow for a RT chord to be played in other than the range(middle C example )it's recorded in because there is no way to notate something like c3 position or have a RT recorded.
Am I correct on this?
If this is true, it would seem possible, because these are audio files, to expand the range of RT's, at the time of artist recordings, much as sampling is done and an addition in programing so C would be middle C, C1 up an octave c2,c3 and so on.
Please excuse what might be a naive approach or ignorance of BB's possibilities or limits or mine
Thanks just thinking out loud on the keyboard
Wyndham
BTW I know some RT's are listed as high track
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,687
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,687 |
This is done routinely Wyndham but maybe not a full octave. That's what the Elastique (time stretch algo) is for. AFAIK all the instrument RT's are recorded 3 times with each one being about a third apart to account for exactly what you're asking about. The Elastique handles the keys in between those recordings.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,142
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,142 |
Peter Gannon indicated in a response to another post that RealTracks are recorded across 5 keys. My assumption would be that while a riff may extend beyond an octave that the 5 foundations are all within the same octave.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
That's what I believe from reading different post at different times also.
Maybe the question is, would there be a need(market) to record a RT's in the 5 key in a lower and higher octave as well as the current octave? Since Peter is promoting extra style packs, this could be another area of development unless the programming load would be too burdensome for BB
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,687
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,687 |
I'm sure that's possible but they could run into some sort of maximum file size limitation. If one RT instrument like piano for example was recorded that way, how big would the file be? If the file is two or three times the size of the current piano RT wouldn't that drastically increase the generation times?
I don't know, just guessing here but it seems to me that would be the case.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
It might be for a future 64 bit BB if there were any interest.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954 |
What instruments were you thinking about ? Using the RealCharts of the keys/piano are the same as there were recorded on the Yamaha acoustic/midi piano and same with the midisupertracks you can modify them however you like. I put them in RapidComposer and fit them in any octave or position on the track. BB_RC_VST2.mp4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
It's one of those things I was considering in general while watching some youtube vids with different guitarist, some old Dire Straits and others. I haven't dug down into BIAB the way you and others have done.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,142
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,142 |
(snip ...) Maybe the question is, would there be a need(market) to record a RT's in the 5 key in a lower and higher octave as well as the current octave? Since Peter is promoting extra style packs, this could be another area of development unless the programming load would be too burdensome for BB I believe I understand what you mean to say but the way you stated it is not clear. Styles and RealTracks serve different purposes. I use the analogy that styles provide guidance about how-to use or create content. RealTracks is one component of the content; there is also midi, UserTracks, loops and audio content. With that said, more recorded audio in a RealTracks should provide more content for the style to choose from. But, do the programs or styles have enough artificial intelligence to handle multiple octaves of content? Likely no unless there is a way to notate which octave you desire. I do not believe BiaB nor RealBand are capable of notating octaves.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,058 |
Thanks Jim, yes that was what I wished to get across. Not being a musician myself, I fine it sometimes hard to convey certain ideas about music to others. Fortunately for me, my wife has learned to read my mind in this regard.
Wyndham
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V
Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!
We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!
Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a
If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!
Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,860
Posts738,113
Members38,598
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean