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Today I was doing some mixing and I could not get the drums right. Every now and then there was an extra loud high pitched snare type hit totally different to most of the drumming. I did my usual and soloed the drums, they were fine. When I soloed the bass there were loud clicks. These clicks hit on beat with the kick and sometimes the snare making it appear the snare was at fault. Looking at the wave form showed nothing untoward. The Spectral Editor in Reaper clearly showed the click and made it easy to remove the noise.

For quite some time I have tried using eq to get shy of various unwanted noise without that much success. Today I spent time learning and using the Reaper Spectral Editor. This makes it easy to reduce or remove the fret squeaks that show up in the really nice acoustic picking one gets from BIAB.

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If anyone wants to see how spectral editing works, have a look at this 13 minute video tutorial by Reaper expert Kenny Gioia.




Tony,

Thanks again for letting me know about this!

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Yes, brilliant! Very impressed how he was able to get rid of the "P" pop especially, I always struggle with that.

I'm going to learn that tool today, thanks!

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I hear acoustic guitar squeaks on lots of “pro” productions. I think they are part and parcel of the acoustic sound...like a bit of breath intakes. Extraneous bass and snare noises not so good. FWIW

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I agree some squeak or fret noise is more realistic or natural however when it is really loud it can become overbearing. To tame it is what I was getting at. To reduce it to where it lies in the background.

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Very nice demo. Best showing of Spectral Editing than I've seen on any other recording software.




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Yes, occasionally some instrument noise slips through, and it can be difficult to track down.

The Spectro spectral editor is a functionally identical VST.


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Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?
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Nice find David. I was curious what Pro Tools had to offer since that's my main DAW. I knew it was not built in.

They endorse this AAX supported plugin:

Magix SpectraLayers Pro 5

Looks really cool but not sure I would jump for $399. whistle




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You younger guys could probably hear a hummingbird phart at100 yards!

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
You younger guys could probably hear a hummingbird phart at100 yards!

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I take my hearing aids out when mixing or playing as they make a hissing sound after a while and they get really noisy when using headphones.

Without hearing aids things are more dead and the high ends disappear into the tinnitus but the odd really loud squeak comes through.

My 69 year old ears are all but shot.

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My 72 year old ears have been gone since I was in my 40’s. Profound high f loss and tinnitus. BUT, I have a brilliant Ph.D. audiologist and she’s taken me on as a research project smile I have a pair of very high end hearing aids and she and I have worked together on the compression settings and f band boosts (some up to 80db) for a program that lets me mix and another for enjoying the sounds of nature and more for general use. I can switch them via my iPone. She changed my life and made my younger wife’s life easier in the process - no more me thinking she’s mumbling, etc., incidentally Janice can hear that hummingbird at a quarter mile!

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Originally Posted By: sslechta
Looks really cool but not sure I would jump for $399. whistle

That seems pretty pricey, all right!

It's basically a high-quality FFT/IFFT. There's nothing about the technology that's secret, so I'm not sure how that price is justified.

I picked it up a couple of years ago, and have used it to fix problems like squeaks and so forth. It's handy, but on an exposed track, there's going to be a noticable sound difference if there's a hole in the sound spectrum, so you've got to be careful using it.

Definitely something good to have in the arsenal of needed. I think there's a demo version, do you can play with it too make sure it's worth buying.

The thing I learned about tracking down noises is that you have to check all your tracks... Those sounds can hidden really well!


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