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5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around #518413 01/17/19 06:47 AM Songwriting
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OP Belladonna Journeyman Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 723 Virginia	Why Lyrics Matter!!!!!!!! https://youtu.be/eIjAoGLr09w Gary Ewer Watch on You Tube 1. Conversational - common language 2. Balance between narrative and emotion 3. Imaginery 4. Prosody with music 5. Avoid or minimize cliches Couldn't agree more. Last edited by Belladonna; 01/17/19 06:57 AM.

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #519841 01/23/19 07:02 AM Songwriting
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Joe -PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,664	Thanks for sharing this with us Belladonna! Those are definitely traits that can contribute to the longevity of a song. In my humble opinion, I also think songs that can stick around tend to capture what is happening culturally at the time. Cheers, Joe

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #520257 01/25/19 04:44 AM Songwriting
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Ember - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Jun 2017 Posts: 2,945 Victoria, BC	I think those are definitely the stepping stones, but on the heels of what Joe has said, timing can make all the difference when it comes to when a song first gets released. This is definitely food for thought. Cheers, Ember

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #523792 02/10/19 10:59 PM Songwriting
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mglinert Expert Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 996 France, but I'm an ex-pat Brit	So how do you explain 'A Whiter Shade of Pale'? Marc's SoundCloud Marc's YouTube

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #523819 02/11/19 03:35 AM Songwriting
Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 723 Virginia Belladonna OP Journeyman
OP Belladonna Journeyman Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 723 Virginia	I believe "Whiter Shade of Pale" has great imaginery and there is some conversation. It was put out by a really popular band who had a following and the music is emotional. It was based on some British story that a lot of people over there had a reference for, so I'm not surprised that it was a big hit.

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #523851 02/11/19 06:37 AM Songwriting
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Deryk - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Feb 2017 Posts: 3,414	There are certainly exceptions to these rules, but I do think this is a good starting point Cheers, Deryk

Re: 5 Characteristics of Great Songs that made it and stay around Belladonna #523975 02/11/19 06:57 PM Songwriting
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dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,748 Sacramento, California	Originally Posted By: Gary Ewer But if you look at lists of "Best Ever" songs from almost any era, you're probably looking at a list of songs with the best lyrics. Not to say he hasn't given good songwriting advice, but... citation needed. "Probably?" "I think?" I could just as easily argue what you really need is to use a name in the title, citing "Louie, Louie", "Ave Maria" and "Waltzing Matilda". -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

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