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If I go back in time in the forum there are so many more post on a daily basis throughout the year than how it is now, pretty dead. What will get more users back ? EDIT: or NEW USERS Real Time Arranging ?? Band in a Box for linux ?? A Working BBPlugin (EZBBvst) ?? Other ?? ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27895&filename=BBForum-2009.png)
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"What will get more users back ?"
Here is my recipe:
1) Known bugs fixed
2) VST3 with full mixer channel routing before the end of the year.
3) Workflow enhancements / fix broken workflow items - the core of these issues was presented in great detail in several videos by Jeff P.
4) Throw out redundant features and menus /Clean up UI., not giving in to a vocal "few"... only few (!) that are stalling the progress for most users because they are too comfy using certain menus.
5) Graphical enhancements. More vector, more modular, modern buttons. No eyesore "Radio Bar" by default. Less of 90's vibe in design.
6) Plugin stability + same regeneration multicore speed as BIAB. No render to disc.
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"What will get more users back ?"
Here is my recipe:
1) Known bugs fixed
2) VST3 with full mixer channel routing before the end of the year.
3) Workflow enhancements / fix broken workflow items - the core of these issues was presented in great detail in several videos by Jeff P.
4) Throw out redundant features and menus /Clean up UI., not giving in to a vocal "few"... only few (!) that are stalling the progress for most users because they are too comfy using certain menus.
5) Graphical enhancements. More vector, more modular, modern buttons. No eyesore "Radio Bar" by default. Less of 90's vibe in design.
6) Plugin stability + same regeneration multicore speed as BIAB. No render to disc. 5) --> Yes, it could be a good idea. Especially for users with HDPI monitors. Better GUI is always nice to have. But if GUI is old-fashioned and functional I personally don't have any problem. I think there are other priorities, but I understand there are many users with tiny 4K monitors. 1), 2), 3), 4), 6) --> ABSOLUTELY! Every time I fire BiaB I have the same feeling: The software is "almost there" (like N years ago). I'd add: Simpler software set: Just a VST3 plug-in and a stand-alone version with nearly identical functionality. Like everybody else! No need for Real Tracks or Power Tracks (Many musicians prefer their own DAWs). If all functionality is in the VST3, then there is no need to combine multiple pieces of software, each one with its hidden limitations. No more need open Real Tracks to export vocal harmonies in separate channels! If you asked, even just a good VST3 plug-in (no stand-alone version) should be enough, but I understand there are users that don't like to fire a VST host for live use.
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I think to get a whole new user base would be those that use arranger keyboards, there would have to be a large market for those that want real instruments but don't want to pay $5000 for an arranger keyboard with real instruments. Real Time Arranging A decent laptop or something like this could be used in a live situation, look how small these are: HP ELITEDESK 800 G2 mini i5 6500T 8GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 10 Micro PC WIFI I got one as a spare PC for $100. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27896&filename=EliteDesk-800.jpg)
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My take, and apologies if this is derailing. BIAB could easily be adapted to perform as an Arranger keyboard system, using a fast processor, adequate RAM and a decent SSD. However... Some of the currently advertised System Requirements preclude this from ever being delivered: System Requirements for Band-in-a-Box®
Windows®: 11/10/8/7 (32 or 64-bit)
Minimum 1GB RAM (2GB+ recommended)
Minimum 1.0 GHz processor (2GHz+ multicore recommended) I don't know anyone running Windows 7 (no longer supported for several years by Microsoft) on a 1.0 GHz processor and expecting anything from producing music. And that's what I believe is holding this opportunity back. Can you even start to imagine the interest that would be generated if BIAB was also an Arranger System that could be used with almost any existing keyboard?Nobody with a 1.0 GHz Windows 7 anything is purchasing the 2024 version of BIAB. Move on.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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You're right, of course.
I'm wondering, what with lots of FAQs out there, where this set of system requirements came from? It would be worth sending a suggestion to PG Music to update it. In particular, I think the change this year that loads and regenerates RealTracks so much faster must be taking more computer processing power. Only if BIAB had remained MIDI-only would those specs have a fighting chance. "Turn off Fast Generation" and the like can send someone down an unproductive journey with an underpowered computer.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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SSD's have sub-millisecond access ('seek') times, and can typically read in excess of half a gigabyte / second.
For BIAB to work in an Arranger environment, the system only has to read short pre-recorded 'musical phrases', and not generate an entire song.
Of course there are other factors, but processing power is extraordinary nowadays, and BIAB could have a minimum requirement if it is to be used as a Arranger capable system as well. Disable that ability unless the overall processing performance is adequate.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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Using it as a Live Arranger you would only need a small LCD screen, I made a touch screen jukebox/karaoke using an FPOS terminal and just ran the program at startup, I think it even had a second display port for the karaoke screen. http://www.freeboxjukebox.com/screenshots.htmlHere's a 10" touch screen for less than $100: ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27900&filename=10inch-TouchScreen-800.jpg)
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"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
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