Truth be told. BIAB Realdrums took me about 3 minutes to settle in on a playable track. So the drummer sat down and did his rehearsal in essentially one take.
EZDummer2 did not come prepared to laydown jazz brush sounds in 3/4 so I had to lay out $39 to get the Jazz Kits and Midi addons (actually a great sale price). Then it was was all uphill from there. It took a little over an hour to get the rights sounds. But they were sweet.
Jamstix was having a bad day. I could not get the drummer to settle down. He was all over the place.
Jamstix was having a bad day. I could not get the drummer to settle down. He was all over the place.
Biab and RB do not have the VST implementation that allows Jamstix to create anything. All you can use JS for is to act as a sound module to playback the Biab created midi drum track. This problem has nothing to do with JS.
Biab and RB do not have the VST implementation that allows Jamstix to create anything. All you can use JS for is to act as a sound module to playback the Biab created midi drum track. This problem has nothing to do with JS.Bob
Actually, both Jamstix and EZDrummer were hosted in Reaper and the BIAB Realdrums audio where cut and pasted to Reaper. So the midi and sound was coming from each of the three individual applications. Both Jamsix and EZdurmmer2 are 64 bit so don't play nice with BIAB or RB.
Obviously the controls and workflow associated with each of the three drummers is very different. For Realdurms I generally do nothing other than select and play. Jamstix has the brain so controlling it can be difficult at times. EZDrummer is my new tool. I am liking it a lot. Of course you have to buy the addons...
I am partial to Addictive Drums Brushes over most others, tho like you say once you add in the packs it can get expensive..
On a side note, if you are looking for a good Rock-Pop set I just found out the MT Power Drummer 2 is now free. A one trick pony with a ton of good midi files...
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On a side note, if you are looking for a good Rock-Pop set I just found out the MT Power Drummer 2 is now free. A one trick pony with a ton of good midi files...
Thanks for the heads up. Some good chatter going on about this plugin. But with three drummers constantly begging for attention I just ain't got time for another. I long ago put a freeze on free VST downloads. You know you got too many when you don't know what you got.
You get 100 different drum kits. You also get a mixer, tone controls, and other goodies. This is the Platinum version however there are a couple of less expensive versions. Note they are all VSTis and need no other software to run.
I caught this a couple of years ago around Christmas time for $99 USD.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
So it seems there is little change over the years.
As I don't understand a lot about these plugins am I right in thinking at the moment you just put one of them on a midi track or midi drums track in biab select the drum kit in the plugin and away you go?
If there is an easy way to explain as to what part of it is not compatible with biab or realband, I'd be really grateful.
Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use
Musiclover - the incompatibility is that the main function of EZDrummer and Jamstix is not actually as a drum machine module, but to mimic how a drummer actually plays - you can feed the module incoming midi or audio data (in the case of Jamstix), and based on the amount of incoming data - it can either use the data as note triggers, or alternatively as an indication of what is happening in the song and the drum module will do builds and fills and change it's velocity information based on mimicry of famous drummers.
It's an entirely different concept of how to do auto accompaniment and way different than just as a drum sample playback module.
I have Jamstix and there are some songs where it has worked well, and many where I've been disappointed with the results. But it can work well if, just like other software, you invest the time to tweak it. Here's one where I did minimal tweaking - and absolutely no programming - I just fed it either the acoustic guitar part or the bass part, I think it was the acoustic guitar part. It's great for things like this which was just a sketch I did one night during February Album Writing Month back in 2007. These were not drum loops, but the Jamstix 'brain' reacting to the strength of the incoming audio. The overall mix, is not stellar. I just was trying out my first bass guitar and DADGAD tuning.
That sure sounds good to me (on the strength Of the guitar playing I'll leave the Not part of your name out)
Jamstix sounds good to me on there, human in fact, I thought that it had always to be midi that triggered the samples but brilliant that audio can do it too.
Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2024, Cubase 13, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use
Hopefully solidrock will chime in to give a definitive answer to your question as he has made a wishlist request for drumming programs to intergrate better with PG Music products but here is my explanation.
Drumming programs need to syncronize with a host program to receive transport (start/stop), tempo and perhaps other information like time signature. PG Music outputs information but does not comply with the standard. Therefore many of the automated features these programs offer do not work.
.. So it seems there is little change over the years... Musiclover
Yes but things may change in the new version ! (sorry just kidding), they work great in other DAWs. EZDrummer 2 has 32 bit also, the Midi files need to be Type 1 to drag n drop:
You will need the 32bit VST for PG You can also download the MIDI Mapping - Presets to send to any other Drum Kit. Go to the Bottom of this page: http://www.powerdrumkit.com/download.htm
You can make the whole track up in the VSTi then drag into Realband, if it needs to be changed just Delete the track in RB and drag n drop again. You can't drop one section in at a time as RB panics if it is midi type 0
32bit Windows copy asiodxfd.dll file to C:\Windows\System32 goto C:\Windows\System32 click on cmd.exe at prompt right click paste RegSvr32 asiodxfd.dll Enter
64bit Windows copy asiodxfd.dll file to C:\Windows\SysWOW64 goto C:\Windows\SysWOW64 right click on cmd.exe run as admin at prompt right click paste RegSvr32 asiodxfd.dll Enter
In your Audio Preferences > Audio Driver Type MME, ASIO choose ASIO > Drivers > ASIO DirectX In the ASIO Drivers Control Panel choose you Inputs n Outputs.
Edit: You can also use it as a standalone, just get VSTHost 64 or 32 File > New Plugin and set the Tempo up the top to same as RB. You can then download the 64 bit MT Power Drums if you are on 64 bit machine.
RB panics when you drop another type 0 midi in the same track (until PG fix it) so the midi files just need to be converted from type 0 to type 1. The easiest way to do this on the fly is with Sweet Midi Converter just set it to output to Type 1 and set an output folder, list folder details by Date so the latest one will go to the top. Drag the midi from VSTHost Standalone to Sweet Midi Converter, click convert, click new, set RB to Snap to Beat, drag file from output folder into RB with the track set to MT Power Drums VSTi. This should work with others like MusicLab RealGuitar.
You can use this also NAudio_MIDI_File_Converter.zip it's free, it will convert the the folder you drag the grooves to to another destination folder that you can drag into RB but you will then have to move the finished files out as it will only convert to an empty folder. It will also convert EZD 1 Library to midi type 1 so it will work with drag n drop in RB.
This way you can make the track up bit by bit in RB just load the 32 bit plugin into the midi track.
Originally Posted By: solidrock
RB panics when you drop a type 0 midi in so the midi files just need to be converted from type 0 to type 1. The easiest way to do this on the fly is with Sweet Midi Converter just set it to output to Type 1 and set an output folder, list folder details by Date so the latest one will go to the top. Drag the midi from EZ's Standalone to Sweet Midi Converter, click convert, click new, drag file from output folder into RB with the track set to EZDrummer or EZKeys VSTi. This should work with others like MusicLab RealGuitar.
That sure sounds good to me (on the strength Of the guitar playing I'll leave the Not part of your name out)
Jamstix sounds good to me on there, human in fact, I thought that it had always to be midi that triggered the samples but brilliant that audio can do it too.
Thanks very much for posting this.
Musiclover
The audio doesn't trigger samples directly. The volume of the audio is sensed by Jamstix's 'brain', then based on a pre-decided style and 'drummer' (the list includes: Stewart, Bonzo, Gene, etc.) the brain triggers the appropriate drum samples and patterns and even uses 'human limb limitation', meaning, that it will never trigger more than 4 samples simultaneously, and follows natural arm/leg motion capability.
You can also send midi data to trigger samples like a bog-standard sample playback module, but there's another option - using the density and velocity levels in the midi data not to specifically trigger samples, but to give the same type of energy level information to the 'brain' of Jamstix like the audio stream can do. It's really quite cool. I will admit that it doesn't work as well as I had hoped, but now and then it works well enough like in the sample I posted. I recorded that whole sketch in an evening: acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, and Jamstix setup - as well as 'composing' it. I'm not bragging as there are plenty of clams, but it is nice to have this artificial drummer perform like the claims of the software maker. There have been two major updates to the software since I last used it with success. The developer is very responsive to well-formed feature requests and bug reports.
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