perhaps you might post the link to your song in the showcase with maybe a title like 'example of edm using biab' ? then if the edm topic comes up again the rest of us can point to your example ?
> For example, in the Melodiest dialogue box: "Change Song Chords" option, "Change Song Style" option, are you kidding me? I want you to help me generate a melody to fit my song, but you put these options there to screw my song. Why you hate me so much? HIDE THESE GOD AWEFUL USELESS COMMANDS & OPTIONS, SO ONLY THE USEFUL ONES CAN BE SEEN!!!
Music Villain,
Band-in-a-Box doesn’t take a “one-size-fits-all” approach.
For example, the Melodist can 1. create a melody to your existing chords, 2. Or also create both chords and melody. A simple checkbox determines if you get option 1 or 2.
So you only want the option 1, and find it upsetting that we even have option 2 available, by your comment above.
Problem is many people like option 2, and use it to create entire songs, with chord and Melodies (royalty free). They’ve sent us examples which have been used as background music in many situations, including background to a CNN segment, children’s TV show or a background music YouTube video. I just heard one the other day where a famous comedian uses melodist generated pieces as background for his voice overs introducing old clips of his.
If we did as you’ve asked, and removed the option to generate both chords and melodies, people would complain. So we don’t plan to do that.
> Let's not forget, RealTracks ARE audio loops. BIAB is perfectly capable of making contemporary music. This is after all making music with computers. As with any musical instrument, the musician is more important than the tool. < well done with your song mate.
Yes, well done and thanks for the post. I’ve started a new thread here, as others might be interested in the range of contemporary music that can be generated with BiaB.
just to clear something up, edm music is not created just by repeating loops. it consists of build ups, drops, incredible sound design, intricate automation of synthesizer and effects parameters and manipulation of samples such as time-stretching and chopping.
don't underestimate the genre and think that producers are just looping a sample, this is some of the most complex music to create and you need the right tools.
i've heard attempts to make modern dance music with BIAB and they sound quite laughable, similar to how arranger keyboards sound when trying to do edm, house, hip-hop, dubstep, trap etc.
i've heard attempts to make modern dance music with BIAB and they sound quite laughable, similar to how arranger keyboards sound when trying to do edm, house, hip-hop, dubstep, trap etc.
I wonder though, how much of that relates to BiaB itself and how much relates to someone expecting BiaB to do the whole job.
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. Kawai MP6, Korg M50, Ui24R, Saffire Pro 40. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11; Win8.1: Scarletts BIAB2022 UltraPAK, Reaper, a bunch of stuff.
Konaboy, The muscle of the BIAB is Acoustic and Electric (don't confuse with electronic) instruments, played by real musicians. It is not designed specifically for production of synth based EDM music, but made a very good progress where you can use these (acoustic & electric) RTs / Midi content with other, less represented genres (such as EDM) in your composition with introduction of Chord Track(s) and other tools like partial regeneration, where you can get real played phrases pretty tight to adhere to your ideas.
Every schoolboy and schoolgirl can make a "beat" on their phone. But what software can add real acoustic & electric instruments to their "composition" that will actually follow their ideas, not push the key these loops/phrases were written in? There are only a couple of titles that I know of and overall they are miles away from BIAB in that respect.
Many users utilize BIAB to generate a specific track(s) (guitar, sax, piano, etc), but do their main work in DAW. BIAB is not a silver bullet for "all genres" but it has a very strong library of content in Pop/Rock/Jazz/Folk/Country genres.
Personally I feel that many synth/sample based software workstations such as Komplete, Halion, Falcon, Groove Agent and whole bunch of others have in a way similar content. BIAB is very different and I like that contrast. It's great to have different choices.
but having been offered inside looks on occasion at the music biz over the years i would suggest many (not all) superb productions resulted from a 'team effort' ie..a team of production people behind the artist.
yes a lone artist can produce a superb result, but it often requires a huge amount of work and many many hours of effort. its very demanding on a lone artist with no pro help/assistance.
re 'laughable'. i see where your coming from but i would respectfully suggest that a team of 'pros' useing biab would probably show a superb edm result with biab/rb. remembering that there is nothing to stop people useing sophisticated vl's//plug ins. my argument being that if biab/rb were the only tools available on the market...a team of 'pros' will produce that superb edm genre or trap or whatever result.
i just do nutty songs for enjoyment...and have no illusions of my limitations. but imho its all how the artist(s) use a tool. if you gave me a blank canvas i would produce a terrible painting cos i cant paint...but in the right hands the same brushes and pallate would produce a major masterpiece.
To do modern stuff Biab need to be easy to drag n drop samples/loops into the track anywhere and be able to set the key/chord tempo and set it to repeat for so many bars all non destructively the Loop dialog is so old and limited. Else you need to sync Biab to FL Studio or Reaper:
just to clear something up, edm music is not created just by repeating loops. it consists of build ups, drops, incredible sound design, intricate automation of synthesizer and effects parameters and manipulation of samples such as time-stretching and chopping.<...snip...>.
And this is something BiaB can do. Especially if coupled with RealBand or a sequencer/DAW.
I also think that any composition of any style of music can be made better after exporting it to a sequencer or DAW and tinkering with it a bit.
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