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I've been using BIAB since 2.0 for DOS. Consistent upgrades, every year, plus additional purchases. I felt it worthwhile to support PG Music for a number of reasons. I also recommended BIAB to everyone (I'm a professional touring musician).
Last year I bit the bullet and got the 2010 Everything Pak. When July rolled around and they offered the 10.5 upgrade, I declined - it seemed like more of a patch upgrade than anything else.
I got confused when 11.0 came out. An upgrade was $179 or something like that. And I already had most of the stuff, so it seemed like I was paying that for the new version of BIAB (usually a $29 upgrade) plus some new styles that I didn't even know if I wanted. Now it's 11.5, and they want an astounding $379 to upgrade from 10.
What the heck happened to PG Music? I've been a loyal customer because they've been fair. Now it seems like the attitude is "We're going to upgrade twice a year, you'll have to pay through the nose for the same stuff you have now plus a bit more, and that's it Jack."
Am I missing something here?
- Russ
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Hi Russ,
Last month PG Music were offering special deals on BIAB for Windows. Unfortunately, it would seem that the Windows special deal has now closed (it was advertised as on offer until 7/31/11). Since Mac BIAB 2011.5 came out later than the PC version, the Mac deal is still on the table.
As John has said, there's a huge difference between BIAB 2010 and 2011.5 Apart from all the added Realtracks, in the 2011 version, the audio stretching routine was changed to a superior process. Apart from much improved audio manipulation across a wider range of tempos, this change also resulted in RT's audio files taking up a third less space on the hard drive.
At this point in time, it might pay to wait until the Christmas upgrade swings around.
Regards,
Noel
P.S. If you did upgrade now, you'd probably only need the UltraPlusPak as that has all Realtracks and Realdrums. If you have the 2010 EverythingPak, you would already have all styles and tutorials, etc. (It would pay to ask PG Music about this, though.)
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Just to clarify the new feature Noel mentioned about "a third less space", the savings are even much more than that. The new RealTracks take up one-third the space they used to. This means that the entire program is only 35% of the size it used to be, for a savings of 65%, or in other words, about two-thirds less space. As stated, the new stretching algorithm is quite an innovation and it results in better sound, too.
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I've been using BIAB since 2.0 for DOS. Consistent upgrades, every year, plus additional purchases. I felt it worthwhile to support PG Music for a number of reasons. I also recommended BIAB to everyone (I'm a professional touring musician).
Last year I bit the bullet and got the 2010 Everything Pak. When July rolled around and they offered the 10.5 upgrade, I declined - it seemed like more of a patch upgrade than anything else.
I got confused when 11.0 came out. An upgrade was $179 or something like that. And I already had most of the stuff, so it seemed like I was paying that for the new version of BIAB (usually a $29 upgrade) plus some new styles that I didn't even know if I wanted. Now it's 11.5, and they want an astounding $379 to upgrade from 10.
What the heck happened to PG Music? I've been a loyal customer because they've been fair. Now it seems like the attitude is "We're going to upgrade twice a year, you'll have to pay through the nose for the same stuff you have now plus a bit more, and that's it Jack."
Am I missing something here?
- Russ
If you can atall Please hold off doing any upgrades to the December sale. As usually happens the prices for upgrades are cheaper at that time of year. Please read the thread pointed out by Silvertones in his thread link as there has been a lengthy discussion on this with some people including myself thinking as you do that its gets increasingly hard for a lot of people to upgrade whereas a lot of people think its still great value.
"you pays your money and you takes your choice"
best of luck
Musiclover
Last edited by musiclover; 08/05/11 09:53 AM.
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NO the summer sale is over for Windows. It's still on for Mac.
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