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I typically love the Solo's PG comes up with. The only problem is they are written as if the Soloist is the end-all be-all, the instrument with the spotlight. I write music typically with vocals. It would be nice if there was a way (other than Holds and Shots, which don't work very well with Real Tracks and wouldn't be 'correct' anyway) to have the Soloist be informed in what bars a vocalist will be active so the Soloist picks it places to shine, and when to shut up or tail off. That sounds POTENTIALLY more like a RealTracks thing where we could mark in the timeline sections where we would like the Soloist to be active and the regenerate, but it might also be a BB thing as well?
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Try RightClicking at the bar, pick Bar Settings, then use the selective Muting where appropriate on that solo realtrack.
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I agree with Paul that this would be a really nice feature. Back in the pre-realtracks days I thought (briefly) that this was exactly what PG had delivered when they added a feature called 'Soloist Play Around Melody' (or something similar). I assumed that this meant the soloist would not stamp all over the melody line and would also hopefully play something that was in sympathy with the melody notes. As it turned out this feature was actually something else altogether (I can't remember what now!).
I realise that, even in the Midi world, the feature that I was hoping for would have been really complicated to deliver, and now that we have moved up to Realtracks I suspect that it would be almost impossible. (The 'real musician' would need to record an almost infinite number of phrases to work around all possible melody phrasings).
I try to address the issue by generating multiple 'takes' of the solo wav files and then comping them together in my DAW. (Sometimes tweaking the results with Melodyne). This is a really painstaking process and is still not always succesful but quite often achieves pretty good results and occassionally achieves brilliant lead licks.
The other approach which works pretty well is only using the soloist for intro & middle 8 sections and not during the verses and choruses. This tends to work better for up tempo songs where there is not so much 'dead space' between the sung lyrics.
On the other hand PGMusic never cease to amaze and delight me with their new features so maybe they have got something up their sleeve to deliver exactly what we want!
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Both good ideas and I'll try both.
I'm going to go out on a limb and propose something that might tail into this. One of the other limiting factors in BIAB is that you only have a limited set of 'players' in the band: Bass, Drums, Piano, Guitar, Strings, and Melody. Yet there are times when I'd like to have the choice of additional players without having to fudge around like Aubrey and I have, creating multiple files, etc.
What I would suggest (for now) is something like a workbook grid that pops up that allows us to enter something like:
---From-- ----To---
Instr Bar Beat Bar Beat Relative?
365 1 1 1 4 Y
365 12 2 13 3 Y
So, for example, the first line would mean 'play the "Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking, EV 085" from Bar 1 beat 1 through bar 1 beat 4 and from bar 12 beat 2 through bar 13 beat 3, or using time stamps would work as well.
Then BIAB would do it's best to only play during those bars/beats ONLY without having to mute other bars, etc, and would assume in it's algorithm it should start and stop elegantly for this time of instrument.
The "Relative" column with value of 'Y' would mean 'shift the bar and beat markers according to edits done by the user.'
Something like that! :-) Cludgey but it might work...
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