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Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time [Solved in build 608] #510467 12/17/18 12:31 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,312 Southeast USA bloc-head OP Expert
OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,312 Southeast USA	[ Note from PG Music: this issue is solved in build 608, available here https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=511571&gonew=1#UNREAD ] This 4:30 minute video, shows the problem I'm having on my Windows 10 Laptop, with BiaB 64, build 606 loaded, and using MME drivers... the song plays fine until I solo a track, then distortion & slowing down of music (pitch lowers too)… Un-solo and all tracks play fine... Then at 02:30 I click on [use VSTi/DXi Synth] and none of the tracks play (solo'd or not) My Drop-Box Video of BiaB 64 I have similar problems using the 32 bit program, also when using midi-tracks... Both programs work Ok on my Studio DeskTop... Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta; Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #510545 12/17/18 05:24 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida jford Veteran
jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida	Hey, Bloc-head - Try setting the tempo to 70 instead of 85 and see if it plays cleanly and solos cleanly. My testing seems to indicate that the distortion is related to tempo setting. When I set it to the recommended tempo for the style (which for _OLBONES is 70), everything plays cleanly; when I deviate from that recommended tempo, I start getting distortion (sometimes by just going one tick up or one tick down). Not every style, but many I've tested. Let me know. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #510631 12/18/18 04:01 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,312 Southeast USA	Thanks John... It helped to slow the tempo down to 70bpm, and as long as [use VSTi/DXi Synth] is un-checked... if I check that option, (with or without midi tracks) all realtracks are distorted. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta; Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #510700 12/18/18 08:04 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida	Bloc-head - I need to try that and see if it makes a difference on my system (unchecking DXi) as I try to figure out/troubleshoot where all my distortion is coming from. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time jford #510763 12/18/18 12:58 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,312 Southeast USA	Originally Posted By: jford I need to try that and see if it makes a difference on my system (unchecking DXi) as I try to figure out/troubleshoot where all my distortion is coming from. Are you having similar issues..? I also tried using "WAS Drivers" and that made the problem worse. Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta; Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time jford #510800 12/18/18 03:21 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Will Josef Expert W Joined: Sep 2018 Posts: 1,362 Denmark	Hi jford, I don't understand... he said he also have problems when using midi tracks. Shouldn't you be able to use any tempo you want if you are using midi? Isn't that one of the advantages with midi? Will

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #511168 12/19/18 07:47 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Blake - PG Music PG Music Staff Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 791 British Columbia, Canada	Thanks for the great report! This really narrows it down. Blake PG Music Inc.

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time jford #511193 12/19/18 10:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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fiddler2007 Expert Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,796	Originally Posted By: jford Hey, Bloc-head - Try setting the tempo to 70 instead of 85 and see if it plays cleanly and solos cleanly. My testing seems to indicate that the distortion is related to tempo setting. When I set it to the recommended tempo for the style (which for _OLBONES is 70), everything plays cleanly; when I deviate from that recommended tempo, I start getting distortion (sometimes by just going one tick up or one tick down). Not every style, but many I've tested. Let me know. Can it be that the time stretching function or version has changed with BIAB 2019? Or it's settings? There are supposed audio related fixes in 607 ...

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #511254 12/20/18 05:31 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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jford Veteran Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 12,583 Pensacola, Florida	Blake from PGMusic has posted in another thread that they think they have figured out what the problem is (related to how math is calculated, which affects some CPU's but not others). We are expecting an update patch soon and I'm looking forward to testing it. John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #511625 12/21/18 11:19 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP bloc-head Expert Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,312 Southeast USA	I'm happy to report that the new build 608, has greatly improved performance on my Laptop... Thank you all for the great effort... Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta; Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20

Re: Soloing Tracks cause Noise & Distortion of Pitch/Time bloc-head #511628 12/21/18 11:24 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,589 PeterGannon PG Music Staff
PeterGannon PG Music Staff Joined: May 2000 Posts: 15,589	Yes, that’s build 608 that’s fixed that issue. It was affecting certain CPU types only. You can get build 608 here ... https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=511571&gonew=1#UNREAD Have Fun! Peter Gannon PG Music Inc.

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