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Maybe I look at look at things like this a bit differently, but my feeling is that "I am not "giving" PG Music money" but I am purchasing a product that I feel is well worth the price charged. I agree free would be nice but I also adhere to the old addage, "there is no such thing as a free lunch". Someone has to pay the price, either sooner or later but you can book it isn't free..

I think back to the "old days" when Jack Daniel used to advertise "All Goods Worth Price Charged". So far I feel the same about PG Music.

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2010.5 was the only free one that I can remember and that was because there was not a whole lot to it. 2011.5 is a much bigger deal with a major and very cool new mixer plus the new RT's require 2011.5 to run plus some enhancements of the current RT's also need 2011.5 to run. There is also a new Android Remote feature that looks pretty cool. I have an Android but haven't checked that out yet.

I would call this a substantial upgrade and I would not expect it to be free.

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Bad idea and bad precedence.

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I already voted with my PayPal account. Sent them my $199.00 + for the Audiophile upgrade. I'm not only not going to complain, I'm going to praise PG Music for offering a great product at more than a fair price.


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2010.5 was the only free one that I can remember and that was because there was not a whole lot to it. 2011.5 is a much bigger deal with a major and very cool new mixer plus the new RT's require 2011.5 to run plus some enhancements of the current RT's also need 2011.5 to run. There is also a new Android Remote feature that looks pretty cool. I have an Android but haven't checked that out yet.

I would call this a substantial upgrade and I would not expect it to be free.

Bob




Ok guys Thanks for replies and advice. You've convinced me to get this upgrade as it seems to add a lot of extra features. Credit card at the ready with a bit of luck I'll be running biab 2011.5 in a few hours. Hope its not a massive download though.

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Hey Guys & Gals. It looks like the update is as close to free as you can get. It looks like the RT's are $99 leaving $49 for the hard drive. That seems about the same as last year to me. The only difference I can see is there's no option for DVD delivery this time.

I think it's a great deal and I'm making my purchace ASAP.


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It must be really fast to download it if you live in BC. The telephone wire is much shorter and those 0's and 1's must arrive much faster.



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I think my wife's gonna let me have it.


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The only difference I can see is there's no option for DVD delivery this time.




This is not good.....


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I downloaded the whole she-bang and it was pretty quick. About 40 minutes.


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Oops. After I posted I saw there is a DVD delivery option. Sorry folks.


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I could use the 'carrier pidgeon' option if it was offered. It would definately be faster than Canada Post. At 40min. for a download it might even be faster than electronic delivery. I'm just not sure if pidgeons can carry the HD. lol


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I think the free upgrades usually happen when the main release has been rather buggy, and it is needed to solve some issue that cropped up and was to large to be a simple patch! The paid mid-year releases are more toward the cool upgrade type that add a pile of RTs and some cool requested features.

Last year if you remember there was a free upgrade mid year, that upgraded just the 2010 program to 2010.5, and a paid upgrade that added RTs and stuff to that.

I waited for the 2011 upgrade to pay and it cost more, so I think this year i will upgrade in july, and get the new stuff and see what december brings.


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Also understand that an UPDATE is not the same as an UPGRADE. And update fixes things. An upgrade adds features and enhancements.

I can not spare the $99 right now, but soon....


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I took out a Band in a Box credit card a few years back. It has a low $1,000 limit. When i about get it paid off an upgrade comes out. Drat here we go again.My goal is to have it paid off by the 2012 upgrade! Yeah right!


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Oops. After I posted I saw there is a DVD delivery option. Sorry folks.




There are a few DVD deals offered, but not for the UltraPlusPAK, which is the one I grab. And since $$ is tight ATM I will wait for the end of year sale to see if it is available then, I hope so!


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I am going to be really positive here my hunch is the next update will be a very good one. I think a postive rethink is going on. Even if the update is hardly nuthin, the Real Tracks are always worth the bucks.


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Oops. After I posted I saw there is a DVD delivery option. Sorry folks.




There are a few DVD deals offered, but not for the UltraPlusPAK, which is the one I grab. And since $$ is tight ATM I will wait for the end of year sale to see if it is available then, I hope so!




I think this is a DVD option unless I read it wrong.

DVD option


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Here's my interpretation of the new pricing.

If you don't need a new USB hard drive with everything on it (that you can run everything from), you can opt for the DVD option to just get the new versions of BIAB and RealBand, as well as all the ***NEW*** RealTracks. That's what you get for $99. It presumes you already have BIAB/RB installed on your system (either on the local hard drive or using the 2011 USB hard drive). You can then use the DVD's to upgrade to 2011.5.

However, if you want a new USB hard drive that has everything on it (that is, if you have the 2011 UltraPlusPak now, you get the new 2011.5 UltraPlusPak; if you have the EverythingPak, you get the new EverythingPak. PGMusic will check their records and make sure you get the appropriate upgrade. That lets you run it right off the USB hard drive, but it costs an additional $50 (at $149).

**I DON'T WORK FOR PGMUSIC; THIS IS JUST MY INTERPRETATION OF THEIR PRICING**

Since I have everything installed locally anyway, I'm opting for the DVD option to get the new stuff. In the end, you end up with the same thing, for all intents and purposes. The DVD option also gives you the download option, so you can get everything right away.


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Zee, i agree, ... hey that rhymed!! I look forward to the 2012, i think a few real nice goodies are coming. But for $99 the .5 is a good deal


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The only real difference between this year and last year as I recall it is IF you were one of the people not interested in any new RTs you could get just the programs for free. If you are one of the folks like I'm sure most of us and do want the new RTs then it's the same price.


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Yup, from the page...

"For $99, you get two DVD's with 2011.5 and the new RealTracks. You can also download the files immediately, or choose "download-only" and save shipping & handling. ( ~5 Gigabyte download )"

That is a good deal for sure! I did not even see that page (you would THINK I would know my way around this place by now! ). Thank You for the link pwarren! Here's to them doing the same at years end...


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