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This has been discussed before but don't remember any resolution...
I am trying to solve the problem of an extra drum 'stick on stick' click at the end of 2 bar endings. It sounds like the count-in is starting over but only gives one click. Loop is turned off and it occurs on every song that has a 2 bar ending.
Now the curious thing is it does not occur when using a soft synth - only when using my external synth. I've tried two different midi interfaces with the same results. Also it only occurs when using MME for audio. If I switch to ASIO, it goes away.
For the RDs, I tried both the built-in headphone jack and a USB d/a converter. Same result. It certainly seems like it is MME related.
I've never used ASIO at a gig and am a little nervous about using it now. Has anyone had the problem with MME and have a solution.
Latest BIAB build, Vista XP Home, and current drivers.
Thanks,
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**What is the MIDI Latency window showing in MME?** -- With a hardware synth, it should be darn close to zero. Large settings here may have impact.
For the record, I have used ASIO sound drivers in live performance for several years now without problem.
You should set to ASIO at home and do some shakedown runs, practice with it like that, etc. to make sure that your setup offers no snags before taking it out, of course.
That pesky sticktap at the end seems to only happen on certain setups and that makes it difficult for deelopment to get rid of it, I think. You may have supplied yet another good clue, as the last time during beta, I was harping at development about the situation happenng with the hardware synths, but did not switch to MME drivers to see how it performed that way. Hmm.
FWIW, I think it is a timing thing as to when the audio files are stopped from playing back, but that's just a WASG on my part.
Try the ASIO.
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This has been discussed before but don't remember any resolution...
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Now the curious thing is it does not occur when using a soft synth - only when using my external synth. I've tried two different midi interfaces with the same results. Also it only occurs when using MME for audio. If I switch to ASIO, it goes away.
You know all there is to know about it, Rachael. I was one of the participants in the other thread earlier this year and tested it out extensively using my Sonic Cell hardware module as both the interface and sound, then tested it using my EMU 1820M as the interface with both the SC and Hypercanvas softsynth and the only thing you can do is use ASIO with a hardware synth. If there's anything new about that I haven't seen it.
Of course being the big star we all know you are, the yelling and cheering to your performances by your devoted fans should drown out that stupid click anyway, right? 
Bob
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Bob may be jesting, but there is indeed some modicum of merit to the suggestion.
Before I found out that use of ASIO drivers seems to eliminate the problem, I noticed that the majority of my audience did not notice the extra stick taps at the end nearly as much as I did. Matter of fact, if I showed no reaction to them, then neither did my audiences.
I solved the problem on my old laptop by downloading and installing ASIO4ALL and using the internal soundcard for playback via the earphone jack to line input. Works a treat here.
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Of course being the big star we all know you are, the yelling and cheering to your performances by your devoted fans should drown out that stupid click anyway, right?
It's more like the sound of drink blenders and dishes dropping!
Thanks for the encouragement for using ASIO. I'll play with it at home. I ran into an interesting problem in that the first count-in stick (beat 1 of two bar count-in) was not heard. I found an option to Correct RD Sync for ASIO on the audio setup page. After unchecking it, everything seems to be working. If I discover anything else, I'll post.
R
p.s. Mac, the Driver latency is at 0 when using external synth.
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A possible work-around if (and only if) the extra note is coming from the count in.
Put an extra bar at the start and set it's volume to zero, set the volume back before the start of the second bar.
Just a thought. I don't have an external synth hooked up to test.
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