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I understand how to make instruments solo,what I don't understand is how can I change up the solos in each chorus?I know that if I want a piano to solo Bar 10 to 30 and then have all the other instruments start up agin I just mute then back to normal.But, how to I change up solos in each chorus? Am I missing something or just stupid? Thanks Leonard
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Leonard,
By "change up solos" are you meaning that you'd like a different solo instrument for each chorus? For example: a trumpet in solo chorus 1, sax solo in chorus 2, etc.
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There are some 'Medley' Real Tracks with alternating Soloists...but other than that, I'd say go to Real Band and generate different solos for specific sections of the tune.
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Hi again, Leonard, There are a couple of ways to do what you're after. The easiest is what Mitch suggests. Here's how I'd do it. 1. Right-click on the Soloist track and select "Add/Remove Realtracks" 2. Select a solo from the Realtracks Picker window and then click on the "Medley" button (upper right of the monitor). 3. Make sure the "Chorus" is selected from the drop down menu at the top of the Medley dialogue box. Select a solo realtrack for each of the slots. If you have 3 choruses, you'll need to have soloists in each of the 3 top slots. Now, "Ok" your way out of the dialogue boxes. Hope this helps, Noel
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Noel96 Your suggestion is on the track, now I just have to figure out how to get them to play. Thanks again for quick replies.
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Hi Leonard,
I imagine that you'll need to hit the play button so that the tracks are regenerated. How many choruses does your song have? (Not to be confused with the "chorus" OF a song; PG Music use the term "Chorus" to mean once through the entire song. I mention this just in case it's something your not aware of.)
All the best, Noel
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Yeah, that's what's not so great about the medley thing... each soloist will play through the entire tune so you'd have to have 2 or 3 'chorusus' meaning the tune would play 3 times through, each time with a different soloist.
Sounds more like you want to have, say, a piano for bars 13-20, then a sax at bar 33-40 etc. right ? If that's what you want to do, then Real Band is your tool for that.
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Soloist has custom setting where you can solo at any time for any # of bars with any instrument.
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Yes Noel96, I mean chorus 1..2..3...etc.LIke a Sax on chorus 1 a Bass on chorus and piano on chorus 3. MitchC, yes I want to do that also besides soloing a whole chorus with just oneinstrumentt.I will try the real band thing also. Tommyc,I have tried that, but it seems it will play the same solo over and over on each chorus. Maybe I'm missing something.Thanks for the help guys.
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Soloist has custom setting where you can solo at any time for any # of bars with any instrument.
What custom setting are you talking about Tommy? Please don't just say something exists as an answer, you have to explain exactly where it is and how you use it like Noel did. Go to that menu, open this window, click on that, etc. Details, details.
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Custom is near the center of the select soloist popup and is under solo mode . Select instrument . Then you must click it {Custom} and it says generate solo for a specific range of bars. Then you must decide how many bars you want and where you want them . Then click generate bars .
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Leonard, Noel also touched on part of whats below.
"Soloist Editor" into help screen review and be amazed, or like me flubbergusted.
Then thru out the pages above almost infinite possibility soloist creation and modification doors are opened .
"Soloist Sets". Click that when your done with above.
And thanks for the question, it opened a lot of doors for me as exploring began.
One more item there are Two Custom selections on the main soloist page. First TommyC mentioned, second is lower right hand corner Clicking "Enable", then scrolling down on the influence selections to "Custom"
Good Luck !
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This discussion is tricky because we need to be clear are we talking about the midi soloists or the RT soloists. That separate "Soloist" window that opens when you hit the Soloist button does not work well with the RT soloists. I think some functions might work but most do not. I always hit the Soloist instrument track at the top of the main window and pick a RT soloist there then go into the bar settings and make my adjustments. This is just for RT's. The midi soloists are best handled in the Soloist window.
Very confusing I know. I've suggested a few times since the RT soloists came out that they should consolidate both the RT and midi soloists in the same area and make it clear what works with what.
Bob
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Bob,
I have tried the Realtracks in soloist with Enable Button clicked and tried out some of the options. It does work to a point. Better than just turning the non-check option unchecked....
The follow notes and rhythm seemed to work the best. Also had a midi melody be generated within the melodist first, think this "might" affect how the soloist works. Just guessing. then Mute the melody and not use it.
Later.
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Sorry to bring this thread back, but I'm still a little confused as to make a solo work.If I'm correct in assuming that just editing in a DAW is the easiest way to make an instrument solo? I have tried the soloist route, but it's not really working the way I want.Here's the nitty gritty. You know the song Take 5 with the Dave Brubeck group? Well, if you listen to the song or watch a video you see that each player has their own solo including the drummer.My main question is how do I know where to break off of one instrument and go to another? Are songs written like that or does the performers just know when to do their solo? I mean I can mute a section for a while and then mute another, but it doesn't flow like I want it to. I'm guessing my total lack of musical knowledge is a real hindrance in this Field.If I ever had the chance to play for real with real perfomers, I'd crap my pants if they expected me to do a solo.
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Usually charts have sections A B C D. Although new charts sometimes have the letter in a square, all the people I know talk about it as circles. So at circle C...
Basically if you have the chart and watch you will see that they often just take a section, and do that part over and over, jumping in and out. If you have not worked together before there are a few visual cues as to where to go, like tapping your head to go back to the top or redo something.
A solo can be as few as a couple of bars though. Don't get hung up on the term.
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What I would like to see is a realdrums file with Gene Krupa style drum solo's, floor tomtoms, a real jazz rhythm going on, like in Sing, Sing, Sing, or Hey Patchuco (The Mask)that kind of thing. At present, the drums only fill for a bar or 2, what about a complete 8 bar drum solo with variations?
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