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#167279 - 08/01/12 04:19 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Rachael]
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Electrical and electronic components are under the most stress at switch-on, so continually powering up and down isn't the best idea. You've possibly noticed how light bulbs only fail when you switch on the lamp.

Many studios leave everything on 24/7 whether it's being used, or not. Personally, I'd switch off at night, or when leaving the house, just as a fire risk.

ROG.

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#167280 - 08/01/12 04:30 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Rachael]
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I've been reading up on Mac's suggestions and am leaning towards the QSC - made in USA and has 6 year warranty. The Crown would be my next choice.




I'd go with the Crown. They are considered bulletproof. You will get any number of testimonials from other users here. I have used them professionally in live sound and in clubs. You just can't go wrong. They used to have a lifetime warranty; don't know whether that's still so.

On the other hand, I had endless problems with the one QSC amp I owned. I'm sure that in general they are much better than that, but given a choice between Crown and almost anything else, well, I don't actually see a choice.

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Another question...

My 'old' amp had an auto sensing which would turn the amp on when a signal is received. After a few minutes of no signal, it would shut off. This is important because the amp is not in an easily accessed area. Neither the QSC or Crown have this ability. I assume that leaving the amp on continually is not a good idea?

Does anyone know of audio signal sensor that would automatically turn power on/off to the amp? No, the Clapper won't cut it!

Thanks




A very few high-end amps and powered speakers have this feature. I have never seen it available as an accessory. Guess you're gonna have to do the ol' switchie thing!

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#167281 - 08/01/12 07:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Ryszard]
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there are power strips available that have master-slave outputs, and the slave outputs only become active when whatever is plugged into the master outlet is turned on. My son just bought a couple of them for exactly the same reason as yours, Rachel. He has music equipment that he uses at the same time, and only one of the items has an ON switch that is conveniently located. So he plugged that device into the MASTER outlet, and all the other stuff into the SLAVE outlets.

He keeps the switches turned on all the time for the slave devices, so they can be active when their outlets are active. Then, by turning on only the master device, everything comes on and stays on until the master device is turned off.

For equipment that is all used at the same time, and is located close enough to share the same power strip, it's a pretty neat solution.

They cost about $20-$30. I'll ask where he bought it and post that info later

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#167282 - 08/01/12 07:28 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Pat Marr]
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Pat and Rachael,

Given that these things exist, there's something you have to be careful of. Some quality audio gear has a power-on delay circuit intended to avoid the transient "thump" on power up which can damage speakers and ears. Bypassing the onboard power switch also bypasses this safety feaure. I'd like a remote switch for my powered monitors, but I'd be afraid to use it. Unfortunate, but I'll stick with the inconvenient* device switches for that one.

FYI,

R.

*I have to take two steps from side to side. What a drag.
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#167283 - 08/01/12 07:54 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Ryszard]
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You speak of bypassing the switch...

I'm not talking about a short circuit in which some part of the wiring is skipped.

In a device that is always plugged in, power waits at the switch until it gets turned on. The switch itself is just an on-off gate. Once the gate is open, power proceeds to the circuitry and whatever features are built into the electronics do their thing.

Seems to me that this feature would not be a function of the switch, so leaving it in an ON position wouldn't change the flow of electricity at all. Any buffering would still be there, happening after the power got past the switch.

And even if it IS built into the switch... the power will still pass through the switch, so... what changed?

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#167284 - 08/01/12 08:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Pat Marr]
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What we have here is failure to cmyoonicate. I know what I'm saying is true but can't explain it any better at the moment (working). I'll come back to it, or maybe someone can clarify it before then.
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#167285 - 08/01/12 08:32 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Ryszard]
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Okay, I'm on break. Let me try again.

When you turn on a power switch it is considered "energized." Doing this from our notional amplifier's switch starts a timer connected to a relay which suppresses audio output until the power-on transient has passed. This is a one-shot device. The delay won't happen again until you cycle the unit's onboard power switch again, i.e., turn it off and back on.

Therefore, if the switch is left on while the device is powered down, when you reintroduce power you will get an inrush transient as the device powers up, but with no delay as the relay has already been triggered. Therefore the transient will be passed to the speakers if they are on. Megathump to the max. Bad. Krunk says not do.

Is mo' bettah?
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#167286 - 08/01/12 09:37 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Pat Marr]
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You can buy a rack-mounted power distro that is designed to delay the power to the outlets for amps. Used it for years in a built-in rack at the listening room at GM, but can't remember the name of the brand!

IMO, every amp rack in a PA system should have one of these boys.

-Scott

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#167287 - 08/01/12 01:26 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: rockstar_not]
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here's a link to the strip I was talking about for anybody whose devices don't have the feature Richard is talking about:

http://1000bulbs.com/product/56488/TCP-L...=www.become.com

a similar device:
http://www.brookstone.com/smart-strip-automatic-power-controller



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#167288 - 08/01/12 01:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Pat Marr]
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I especially like the "ergonomic design." Whaddya, gonna sit on it?
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#167289 - 08/01/12 02:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Ryszard]
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I especially like the "ergonomic design." Whaddya, gonna sit on it?



Why oh WHY did you plant that visual in my mind??

(erase, erase...)

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#167290 - 08/01/12 04:11 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Rachael]
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Quote:

I've been reading up on Mac's suggestions and am leaning towards the QSC - made in USA and has 6 year warranty. The Crown would be my next choice.

Another question...

My 'old' amp had an auto sensing which would turn the amp on when a signal is received. After a few minutes of no signal, it would shut off. This is important because the amp is not in an easily accessed area. Neither the QSC or Crown have this ability. I assume that leaving the amp on continually is not a good idea?

Does anyone know of audio signal sensor that would automatically turn power on/off to the amp? No, the Clapper won't cut it!

Thanks




For the record, my own personal choice would be for the QSC over the Crown. Just so you know.

What are you using for preamp? Many audio preamps feature AC connects on the rear, some marked, "Switched" which means that anything plugged in there will switch on and off with the preamp's front panel power switch.

If you don't have that, consider a common plug strip with built in switch, which can be placed closer to you, and plug the amp - and anything else related into that strip, using one switch to power all on and off.

BTW -- the sensing audio power switching stuff is a good way to have to send an amp to the repair technician on a regular basis. You see, the entire amplifier cannot be entirely cur off from the power line with this nifty accessory, leaving a path for transients, spikes and lightning strikes to make it into your amp and take out all sorts of delicate and expe$ive components. I like a physical power cutoff switch, thankyewverrmuch.


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#167291 - 08/02/12 07:23 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Mac]
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I don't use a preamp. I use a Logitech Duet to stream music from my computer and Pandora. The output from the Duet goes to the amplifier via RCA plugs. Volume and anything else is controlled via the Duet.

The power strip that shuts everything off when the master is powered down looks very interesting. I am not sure it would work for me as the Duet goes into a standby mode which really is not off. However, I am able to turn it off with a few extra steps from a remote. I'll read up on these and see if it would work.

A comment on the audio sensing switch - I suspect this may contributed to the Audiosource to fail twice. I recall several occasions during a storm where the amp switched on/off several times. And during soft music passages, the amp would cycle off/on a number of times.

Despite being connected to a voltage regulator and whole-house surge suppressor, it still managed to die twice in 3 years with sparse usage. Another reason to favor the QSC is the 6 year warranty.

Thanks everyone for the input.

R

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#167292 - 08/05/12 06:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: Rachael]
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Rachael, you're talking about listening to MP3's. You're not listening to CD quality much less audiophile. Read this:

http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/90985-audio-quality

For that level of audio quality most anything would work fine like Scott's $25 amp from Goodwill. Forget about how great the spec's are for QSC and the like. MP3's are compressed files for pete's sake. If you honestly can't tell or don't care about the difference between listening to a CD quality song in Real Band and that same song compressed to an MP3 at 128K then this whole discussion is academic. Basically anything would be fine as long is it's not humming and crackling.

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#167293 - 08/05/12 07:09 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Stereo amplifier recommendation [Re: jazzmammal]
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Maybe her mp3 files are at higher bitrates or possibly even the no-loss Variable Bitrate.

Maybe she also wishes to listen to CDs.

Maybe she also wants hi fidelity to play BiaB, DAW and other sudio as well.


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