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Muted Trumpet #167884 07/31/12 01:18 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 167 Groveland,Fl leonard1962 OP Apprentice
OP leonard1962 Apprentice Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 167 Groveland,Fl	Is there anyway to make the real tracks trumpets sound muted or any other brass instrument for that matter? I've got Garritan Jazz and Big Band, but it just doesn't sound right.

Re: Muted Trumpet leonard1962 #167885 07/31/12 02:18 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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PhillyJazz Journeyman Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 593 Philly	Real tracks are what they are. They are recordings of real instruments. There are some DECENT muted trumpet SoundFonts out there, but IMO only good within a limited range. Jan - 12 Core AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 32GB DDR4 Win 10 64-bit Samsung m.2 SSD Boot drive,other SSD internal and USB drives. MOTO 2 Ketron SD4,SD1000 Yamaha RX-v381amp VB-Audio virtual cables

Re: Muted Trumpet PhillyJazz #167886 07/31/12 10:35 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,677 Sacramento, California	Sure, use the built-in effects. Bring up the VSTi Synth dialog, and click the Melody track (or whatever the trumpet is on). The first thing you'll need to do is simulate the frequency cut that the mute does. Under Plugin, choose PG Ten Band EQ in the first slot. Move the sliders for all the bands down to -18. Set the 1K and 4K sliders to 0, and the 2K slider to +18. This cuts most of the frequencies except around the 2K frequency. Play with the sliders until you get a sound that you like. Now, you'll want to add a bit more "buzz" to the sound. Still in the VSTi Synth dialog, select PG Distortion for the second slot. Move the Pre Gain slider to 20 as a starting point, and adjust until you like the sound. Not a perfect emulation, but it'll get you close to the sound you're after. -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Re: Muted Trumpet dcuny #167887 07/31/12 11:12 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,890 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,890 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Wait a minute please. I'm confused by the question. Leonard, are you using a RealTrack trumpet, like your question said, or are you using Garritan? As for the comment about range, an actual trumpet player rarely uses the extreme upper range when using a mute. On my trumpets with mutes, as well as on my flugelhorn, I can play well above high C but you wouldn't want to listen to it, unless you're going for some special effect (like eliciting fear or anger). BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: Muted Trumpet dcuny #167888 08/01/12 03:54 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 167 Groveland,Fl leonard1962 OP Apprentice
OP leonard1962 Apprentice Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 167 Groveland,Fl	Wow,Your a genius,how did you figure out how to do that? It's perfect and exactly what I was aiming at. Like I said I was using Garritan Big Band and Jazz and the wind instruments just sound so lifeless and dull. Thanks for that awesome tip.Leonard

Re: Muted Trumpet leonard1962 #167889 08/01/12 07:40 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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cubanpete Veteran Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,032 Florida, USA	Yep, I tried it (real track) and it sounds pretty decent, thanks for that tip. In fact, I saved it as a preset for further use. Music should be part of your life http://www.soundclick.com/blackcatjazzcafeband

Re: Muted Trumpet cubanpete #167890 08/02/12 01:02 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,677 Sacramento, California	I'm glad it worked for you! -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

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