You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#216736 - 10/01/13 02:09 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers
latinsinger Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/01/13
Posts: 3
Hi I Love Band in a box and Real Band God Bless you Guys this is my Wishlist for Band in a box and Real Band 2014 Real Brass Trumpets and Trombone for latin Singers and Producers for the style of Latin Cuban Salsa Clasical and Modern as well for merengue Modern also Modern Bachata Real Guitar Tracks Percussion
and Guiro for Latin Music lovers it will be a Hit you know it thanks for the good work God Bless.

Top
#216808 - 10/01/13 05:21 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Matt Finley Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 17265
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
+1 of course. As this is your first post here, I just wanted to make sure you know that recent versions of BIAB support loops. There are some decent Latin jazz brass loops out there.
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Win Audiophile; [& 2018 Mac Pro]. Software: Mixcraft, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb RAM; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & 6" monitors.

Top
#223694 - 11/28/13 08:40 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Moshe13us Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 07/16/11
Posts: 35
Hi Matt,

How can u use brass loops in styles (how could u manage to make a loop follow chords changes in BiaB)? I'm puzzled...

Mo.

Top
#223726 - 11/29/13 02:10 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Matt Finley Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 17265
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
That's what loops do. They are snippets of sound that can adapt to key or tempo changes.

Loops are not related to BIAB styles. I only mentioned them as an alternative that could be considered, unless and until BIAB comes out with the style you need.
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Win Audiophile; [& 2018 Mac Pro]. Software: Mixcraft, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb RAM; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & 6" monitors.

Top
#223809 - 11/29/13 11:30 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2121
Loc: Sacramento, California
NI has a new Cuba product which has percussion, bass, piano, tres and trumpet... but no trombone. It's discounted 50% for the next week, and it looks like it would be a good match - it uses samples and a pattern grid (with a lot of presets), so it's got more flexibility than loops.

NI also has Session Horns on sale at 50%, which does has a trumpet and trombone... Only they don't work in solo mode (grrr).

BiaB has MIDI drums where you can set up patterns, but RealTracks are so easy to use that it's been years since I've looked into that functionality. But it might be something worth looking into, especially if you're got a good sampled drumkit.

Of course, you're request is 100% right. Having RealTracks would be great for you. smile
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#224172 - 11/30/13 10:10 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: dcuny]
Moshe13us Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 07/16/11
Posts: 35
You're right :
- NI Cuba offers great flexibility and convivial interface
- But (for brass library) I would prefer Best Service Chris Hein Compact (less resources-hungry) since you can pick up whatever instrument u need for small or big bands

@ Matt : Please, for my personnal education purpose, could u show me an example of brass loop used in BiaB ? So far, I've just used percussion loops...

Mo.

Top
#224176 - 11/30/13 10:19 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Matt Finley Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/12/00
Posts: 17265
Loc: Hudson Valley & Lake George NY
Mo, some of what I do is write and play horn parts, so I haven't used brass loops in BIAB. It's the competition! I'm assuming it can be done, though, so perhaps someone else here has tried it?
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Win Audiophile; [& 2018 Mac Pro]. Software: Mixcraft, Adobe Audition, Ozone, Encore; Win 10 64 Pro. Hardware: custom i7, 16 Gb RAM; Roland Integra-7, Focusrite 18i20(2), TCE Finalizer, Behringer X-Touch, Adam sub & 6" monitors.

Top
#224239 - 11/30/13 12:07 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 2121
Loc: Sacramento, California
I don't have any examples of loops in BiaB because I import all my stuff into a DAW - it's the environment that works best for me.

Here is an example of loops and BiaB tracks put together in a DAW. Here is an example of "pure" BiaB horns, built by using holds and hits instead of the "default" rhythms. Here is the same track with trumpets added in a DAW using JABB (Garritan's Jazz and Big Band).

As a caveat - the trumpet that comes with Cuba has gotten mixed reviews - some people like it, others say it's worthless. It's only available with a mute, and has three different articulations, so it's definitely limited. There's a tutorial on YouTube where someone puts together a song in Cuba, but he ends up using trombones from SampleTank 2, and his own sampled trumpet because he doesn't think any good trumpets available.

Other reviews have noted a lack of Latin brass and good loops.

So there's definitely a niche here BiaB could fill.
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#437889 - 11/13/17 10:34 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: dcuny]
latinsinger Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/01/13
Posts: 3
I know you know it but anyways nothing sounds better than the sound of real trumpets and trombones check this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KxkMLAZlzw
in the beginning the sound of the trumpets and trombone are excellent hope you like it.

Top
#450334 - 01/10/18 11:13 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Edward Buckley Offline
Expert

Registered: 03/27/06
Posts: 812
Loc: Guadalajara, Mexico
What we need is the same “Sabor” in the horn section sounds and phrases like El Gran Combo/Gilberto Santarosa/Grupo Niche....etc.

Top
#450373 - 01/10/18 03:25 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Jim Fogle Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/20/11
Posts: 3787
Loc: Winston-Salem, NC USA
+1

Years after the request was initially made, still an overlooked niche that PG Music can fill.
_________________________
Jim Fogle
2018 BiaB (519) UltraPlusPak RB 2018 (Build 5)
Cakewalk by Bandlab - Sonar Home Studio - Cakewalk Music Creator 6 - Audacity
i3 laptop, 64bit Win 7, 8 GB ram, 480GB HDD
Music at: http://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Top
#451449 - 01/16/18 03:56 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: Edward Buckley]
VideoTrack Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 8119
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I know this a very old thread, revisited. However, the suggestions are still timely.

I think there are many users who'd say you can't have too much of this.

+1
_________________________

BIAB, RB 2018(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Izotope Prod. Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, KorgX3R, RodeNGT2, AM802mixer, NS40M Studio Monitors, Pioneer Active Mons, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Top
#464386 - 03/27/18 11:53 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: Real Brass trumpets and trombone for latin singers and Producers [Re: latinsinger]
Islansoul Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 05/15/15
Posts: 763
Loc: St. Petersburg , FL
I've been asking for that along with horns for reggea and ska.
_________________________
Computer: Mid 2014 Macbook Pro,
DAWs: Pro Tools, Logic, and Maschine
plays drums, percussion, bass, steel pan, keyboard,
music producer/engineer

Top


PG Music News
Video - Making A Song in Band-in-a-Box® 2018

Ever wonder how to create a song in Band-in-a-Box®? We start off with the basics in our latest video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018!

Windows users: click here | Mac users: click here

RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks update patch (519) here.

This patch includes some RealTracks audio updates we have made since the release of Band-in-a-Box 2018. 2018 users should be sure to download the latest Band-in-a-Box 2018 update patch (519), as that patch includes the bulk of the fixes for RealTracks released with 2018. This is a larger download than typical because it updates the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks audio files. There is more information and Audiophile patches available here.

Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow16thsByron Ev16 060
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow128Byron Sw 040
- Bass, Acoustic, RockabillySwingByron Sw 190
- Bass, Acoustic, BluesyPopByron Ev 100
Improved: Audio glitches have been removed from the ends of phrases in the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
Improved: Lyrics will be now read from .mid files that used to be karaoke files (.kar) and got renamed somewhere along the line.
Improved: Support for RealTracks that should be transposed only lower (ie heavy metal guitars) and for future Improved metal guitar comping.
Improved: The Audio Harmony Dialog has been rearranged to be more intuitive when using Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
Fixed: Audio harmonies would be generated with the wrong notes if selecting a range of audio in the middle of the track.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box should show message if the latest VJT application is not installed when the user tries to render videos.
Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
Fixed: It was not possible to record audio using WAS audio drivers if "Output always on" was disabled.
Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: The VJT application should print out its version number in log files.

Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

Option 1: Run Band-in-a-Box® directly from the USB drive only: click here to view.

Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

Option 3: Install Band-in-a-Box® and the RealTracks & RealDrums on your computer hard drive: click here to view.

Check out all our Band-in-a-Box for Mac videos here.

Video - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

Have you purchased your Band-in-a-Box® package, and want to make sure you're downloading and installing the RealTracks Sets correctly?

Well, we've created just the tutorial video you're looking for! Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac® - Downloading and Installing RealTracks Sets.

Video link:
www.pgmusic.com/?vid=QndXu8H_IwM

Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

Our Polish Distributor, Sound Station, has finished their Band-in-a-Box 2018 New Features summary video (in Polish!) - click here to watch.

We hope all our Polish Band-in-a-Box users find this video helpful - thank you Sound Station!

Forum Stats
27630 Members
50 Forums
52264 Topics
432654 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
Flower, BjornTopo, lauzah, soucychapiro, rH7yB6bGKL

27629 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Icelander 182
Noel96 168
Janice & Bud 143
David Snyder 141
rsdean 119
Deryk - PG Music 118
Kent - PG Music 97
Ember - PG Music 96
Scott C 96
eddie1261 - gone 96
Today's Birthdays
david parker