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#218297 - 10/16/13 06:42 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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I got my PV6 USB mixer in today (yea!). For some reason I can't stereo output into my webcam on my Vista 32-bit machine. I have my MP3 player plugged into the PV6 via the RCA stereo inputs. Sounds fine on the PV6 headphone out. I adjusted the Control Panel --> Sound --> USB audio --> advanced properties to do the 2-channel setting thing (it was set a 1 channel), but still comes across as mono via the webcam (a logitech 500).

The good news is that I can get stereo over on my windows 7 64 bit laptop's webcam, so all is not lost. However the Vista is my music computer so it would be convenient to use that machine and the web cam there.

I've posted over on the peavey forum -- let's see if anyone over there has any ideas!

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#218298 - 10/16/13 07:05 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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A little confused as Vista & 7 are so similar however the issue may be this. The output from the mixer needs to go to the input(line) of the computer used to broadcast. The newer machines only have a mono input so you won't get true stereo however you should get mono on 2 channels.I think this is what you are getting on the 7 machine. Should be able to do the same on the Vista one.
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#218299 - 10/16/13 07:09 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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I am going through the USB port and a stereo signal is being sent from the PV6 to the PC. I double check, but I think I am getting a stereo signal over on the window 7 laptop. I choose a test file that has the acoustic guitars panned 100% Left and right so it is easy to tell if it is stereo output.
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#218300 - 10/16/13 07:33 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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Originally Posted By: Kemmrich
I am going through the USB port and a stereo signal is being sent from the PV6 to the PC.


I'm envisioning that it's a linear plug (1/8" jack) that goes into the PC.
So...are you sure the patch cord to the PC is a stereo jack?

If I'm wrong or missed something ignore this post.

Carry on....
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#218303 - 10/16/13 08:02 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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The PV6 has a USB out?
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#218310 - 10/16/13 09:48 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: silvertones]
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Originally Posted By: chulaivet1966
I'm envisioning that it's a linear plug (1/8" jack) that goes into the PC....

It's a USB connection (and the turkeys at Peavey don't even supply the USB cord!)


Originally Posted By: silvertones
The PV6 has a USB out?

It's a "PV6 USB" -- same as the PV6 except with USB. For some reason with the PV6 USB, the phantom power seems to be 15V. I don't know if my condenser mic will work with that. I have a preamp ready in case it doesn't.
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#218314 - 10/17/13 12:01 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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can I ask what kind of preamp? I've been thinking about getting a tube preamp to soften the digital signal on my guitar

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#218317 - 10/17/13 02:28 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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Hi Kevin

It maybe a bit of a dumb question but is the sound coming out of both headphones in mono (so just the "stereo effect" is missing)?

If so, I have never actually checked but my setup may also be doing the same thing. I plug my mixer "out" into the 1/8 inch microphone jack on my computer, using a stereo cable.

(When I purchased my new laptop I made sure that it had both an 1/8 inch headphone out and a 1/8 inch microphone in)

I see you are using USB to connect your mixer. Is a USB port stereo?

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#218325 - 10/17/13 07:40 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: JoanneCooper]
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Originally Posted By: Pat Marr
can I ask what kind of preamp? I've been thinking about getting a tube preamp to soften the digital signal on my guitar

I use a Art Tube MP Studio preamp -- it was only $29 when I got it. I am using it when I just do the one mic guitar/vocal thing.

Originally Posted By: jo131
...but is the sound coming out of both headphones in mono (so just the "stereo effect" is missing)?

If so, I have never actually checked but my setup may also be doing the same thing. I plug my mixer "out" into the 1/8 inch microphone jack on my computer, using a stereo cable. ...

I see you are using USB to connect your mixer. Is a USB port stereo?

Seems to be mono signal coming out of both the left and right in the headphones. I am not 100% sure, though. I'll have to check that out a little closer.

Sounds like you are using a mono signal, too -- but if you are it still sounds pretty good! My mono signal is degraded too much for me -- which means I am not that great of a recording engineer (ha, ha). My pro reference tracks sound quite good in mono (but again, not quite as good as in stereo).

The docs say that the PV6 is sending a stereo signal through the USB port. ... it seems that way to me also (based on the laptop). Maybe I'll try using audacity sometime today and see if audacity hears the stereo signal on my Vista machine.

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#218332 - 10/17/13 08:16 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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Quick update: Audacity records the stereo output from the PV6 mixer just fine. Looks like the problem rests with the Logitech webcam 500. I haven't found any topic about this via google searching so I might have to go straight to logitech support. The problem is that, percentage wise, there aren't that many people doing this type of stiff it seems!
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#218338 - 10/17/13 09:29 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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Originally Posted By: Kemmrich
Quick update: Audacity records the stereo output from the PV6 mixer just fine. Looks like the problem rests with the Logitech webcam 500. I haven't found any topic about this via google searching so I might have to go straight to logitech support. The problem is that, percentage wise, there aren't that many people doing this type of stiff it seems!

OK so the PV6 is your audio device & the 500 is video.I don't see why one affects the other.I have a Logitech HD ??? web cam & use an Audidgy 2 ZS Notebook card for the audio and neither interfere with the other.
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#218339 - 10/17/13 09:31 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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BTW disable the audio portion of the webcam. Make sure in the sound appelett for windows that the PV6 is selected for the "voice" feature.
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#218353 - 10/17/13 01:35 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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There is a possibility that what you hear over streejelly is mono only! Does anyone have any more info on that. I thought you could send and hear stereo audio. If that is the case, then I may just remix my backing tracks to send better in mono (but they aren't terrible as is.

In any case, I needed a mixer anyway to get the MP3 player and guitar/vocal combined.
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#218357 - 10/17/13 02:49 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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Just got a reply from Frankie and he says:
Originally Posted By: Frankie @ SJ
Hi Kevin,
Yes, the rtmp stream produced by the Flash encoder is reading in a single microphone source. That source is then combined with the video into one stream. The audio is set at the highest rate of 44khz (if not limited by the local pc or sound/mic drivers). Long story short, yes it is mono.

Frank Podlaha
StreetJelly.com


Oh well, I'll see if my vista machine is adequate. I might still have a 1-channel vs. 2-channel issue, so I may have to use my laptop. In any case, I might need to remix my backing tracks so they sound a little better in mono (they aren't that bad now).

I wonder what tricks you use to get separation is mono -- eq and reverb?
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#218384 - 10/17/13 05:47 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Anyone heard of/used StreetJelly.com? [Re: Kemmrich]
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I found a third party webcam software product called ManyCam which allows me to record/stream in stereo. Of course I have an issue when try to I try to record the video into an *.avi file -- but nothing is ever easy!!!!!

Of course, the sound you will be hearing at SJ is mono, but at least I can monitor and mix in stereo and the resulting mono signal should be OK for my purposes -- or at least time will tell.
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