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#224563 - 12/01/13 06:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] User Tracks
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I read:

UserTracks added. Now you (or others) can make your own RealTracks (guitars, pianos, strings, etc.). To make your own RealTracks, simply record tracks in Band-in-a-Box, RealBand or any DAW, and name your UserTracks, and add them to the UserTracks folder in Band-in-a-Box (or RealBand). They are now ready to use, the same as you use other RealTracks!

Does it mean that I have necessarily to RECORD a track?

OR

...(since it's written that I can use any DAW), could I use any wav file, even existing one?

An example: suppose I have single backing tracks for an existing song (e.g. Money for Nothing, Dire Straits). Could I use the bass, or the rhythm guitar of that song to make a UserTrack, and then use it in any new song with BIAB?
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#224565 - 12/01/13 06:48 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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Hi alfredo,

I haven't yet had a chance to play around with the creation of User tracks. My understanding is that any audio can be used. How effective it is, I don't know.

One thing you need to be aware of though, is that if you are using custom riffs from backing tracks, copyright applies to those.

As soon as a get a chance, I'll start playing around. There are some sample files that come with the new BIAB so that a person can practise.

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#224567 - 12/01/13 06:51 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: Noel96]
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Hi Noel,

just thanks for your kind answers to my questions.
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#224577 - 12/01/13 07:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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As I understand it, you could use those tracks but you would need to create a BIAB file of the chords to the song. Noel is correct to be concerned with copyright here, because the resulting playing in a new song could have recognizable licks.
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#224600 - 12/01/13 08:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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That's a pretty interesting question here. To my understanding, it is allowed to use a few bars of otherwise copyrighted tunes and songs. Cutting up such a song into bits and pieces and recycle its bits somehow differently was never a question in the past - imagine some tune sort of scambled via some grinder - who would have wanted to listed to such a jam.

With bits and pieces recycled via Band-in-a-Box, though, it appears feasible now to jam along in some reasonable sense. First time in history.

Plus it's all about backing tracks and harmonies, which usually cannot be copyrighted. Copyrighting usually is all about melodies and songs.
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#224601 - 12/01/13 08:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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User tracks? How did I miss that one? Where do I find the information?

Thanks,
Notes
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#224603 - 12/01/13 09:01 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: Notes Norton]
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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
Where do I find the information?

Don't pass GO, go directly to the Homepage ...
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#224673 - 12/01/13 11:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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Thanks!
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#224687 - 12/01/13 12:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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I would imagine this would add in a very great opportunity to add Ohhs and Ahhs and other harmonies to a song with ease.
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#224706 - 12/01/13 01:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: Notes Norton]
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I expect to see the Norton user real tracks appearing VERY soon!!
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#224716 - 12/01/13 02:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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if this turns out the way I think it will, the free exchange of user tracks could blast some doors wide open. Until I get my brain wrapped around it, it will be fun to see what others come up with.

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#224731 - 12/01/13 02:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: Pat Marr]
Leon Carpenter Offline
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Hi Noel. I updated to the 2014 EverythingPak and looking forward to all the new features. The ability to create UserTracks is the most welcome. My question is: will the RealCharts feature apply to UserTracks?------Leon

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#224735 - 12/01/13 02:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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Hey Leon, that's a great question we forgot to ask (I think). I'm going to guess No, because you are recording audio to make your UserTracks. To have RealCharts, you would have to convert that audio to MIDI. There are utilities that can mostly do that with single-instrument recordings.

But I could be completely wrong.
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#224736 - 12/01/13 02:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: Leon Carpenter]
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I'm betting we will soon see websites offering "Professional" User Tracks as well as the free ones from the upcoming user exchange here on the forum.
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#224754 - 12/01/13 04:04 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: User Tracks [Re: alfstone]
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Is there a certain format that rt's follow like 4 or 8 bar patterns or loops

It's been a long time since I looked at a rt as a sound file but I seem to remember something like that.

Would you create several instrument tracks then merge to one?

Could you use loops?
Does anyone know yet?
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