? Is there Drums MultiRiffs to give more variation with drums ? RealDrum Charts that can be use with a 3rd party VSTi or a PG's own sampler to give more control over individual drum vol, pan, comp, FX ?` All these things would have been easy to implement and would vastly improve the flexibility of the program for producing music how you want.
One thing i like is the ability to detect transients. I have been playing with that in Studio One, and it allows separation of stereo drum tracks to multiple tracks.
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All these things would have been easy to implement and would vastly improve the flexibility of the program for producing music how you want.
Really? I don't think you know what Real Drums are. They are AUDIO files of a real session drummer playing in a studio and mixed down to a stereo track. Stereo, not multitrack. Ever tried to record a live drummer in a studio? You get mic bleeding all over the place, it's very difficult to have a multitrack AUDIO recording of a 12 piece drum kit.
Plus, where do you get midi information from a studio recording of a drummer? He's not playing on a midi drum kit, he's playing on REAL DRUMS. I guess that's where PG got the name from.
And what's with the big crybaby? It's annoying as hell.
I think when he mentioned multriffs he was referring to eh ability in RTs to generate multiple copies of the track and choose the best one. I am not sure that would help or not, but certainly is interesting.
As far as chart, RTs generate charts, why not RDs?
I can see the idea of supermidi drum tracks, being useful
lastly what i mentioned above of using transient detection would be interesting. I plan to experiment with RDs and this concept.
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Really? I don't think you know what Real Drums are.
Ok this is the main reason what I have talked about before and what you are up against "Condemnation without investigation....." Like don't history show this ? it really puts you off wanting to help make the product better, I think why bother. It happens so many times, a new suggestion and a bone head response (sorry but I know you might mean well), but why do these suggestions get implemented in BB ??? I have just been given yet another recorded drum session and the drums were crap, they were recorded to multitracks how drums are recorded so then I trigger each track and beat to midi and I put the samples in I want. It is a lot more time consuming doing this with stereo drums. How many RealDrums were recorded using a midi Kit ???
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And what's with the big crybaby? It's annoying as hell.
solidrock *Apprentice "IT'S ....... MEANT TO BE" If you don't want me to make any more suggest I won't, just say the word.
>>> How many RealDrums were recorded using a midi Kit ???
None of our RealDrums have been recorded using a MIDI kit. They are all stereo recordings of a real Drummer in a studio. It would be the same as if you bought drum loops.
Though we use several mics to record them, all that is released is the stereo mix, and there isn't a way to isolate each instrument in the drum kit.
This uses transient drum replacement. Some work but it is what you want to do. The other option is rather than generate RDs, have BiaB generate midi drums and split them to separate tracks.
I know that you want RealDrums to be multitrack, but they simply are not. and to go back now and record them all over is not likely to happen. For most tracking the stereo drum sound just fine. But for those who are tracking a full on session and want true multitrack drums you have a few choise, a couple are listed below others are obvious, get a drum track and mike the rascals, and record them. Buy a midi drum kit.
Take a close look at the video. To me this is one of the features i would love to see PG develop in RB.
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That's alright if they were not midi drums, as long as you still have the original multitracks you can separate them, but doing it with stereo tracks is a pain, have a look at Drumagog, this will give you the RealDrumCharts :
SR, you are missing the point my friend, they were recorded with several mikes, but not on separate tracks, most likey some of those mikes were overheads, and such. Ambiance was the goal. There are no multitrack masters, as they were recorded to a stereo file. This is what Peter has been saying now for a few years whenever this subjet comes up. This technology was primarily made for BiaB, and as we all know it is not a multitrack DAW. So the tracks needed to be stereo to fit on the drum track and make auto-generation work as it does. It was not intended as a split drum tracking software solution.
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I'm not saying to have multi wav files for each drum that would be massive in size but to have the RealDrumCharts. I don't think they would have just recorded drums straight to stereo surely not, but maybe they did in that case there is not much hope for improvement.
The concept of MultiRiffs for drums is a great idea. I'd put it in the wishlist. I've noticed that Realdrums give variations (not as many, though) just like other instruments and I sometimes do multiple generations to find a riff that suits.
You got me thinking now SR. hhhmmmm so many options. Let's hope this keeps progressing. I am going to give that video you posted a run this evening, thanks.
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All that works only if you have separate drum tracks. With stereo tracks you need to split at the transients. So much to play with getting brain overload need beer!
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From the website: "How were recorded your RealDrums? Some of them were carefully programmed and some of them where recorded using an electronic MIDI drumkit, which allows us to have a MIDI version of the tracks in all cases."
Well, then they're not RealDrums.
Well, I understand your point, but "Realdrums" was the name chosen by Pgmusic in 2007 for their new technology, and from then, they have released some "Realdrums" that were completely programmed (for example, their electronic sets).
There are Midi Drums, Live Midi Drums, and Realdrums (both "real" and programmed) and all of them are implemented in a different way. My understandig is that the term "Realdrums" refers to the way Biab uses them, not to the way the files were actually recorded.
On the other hand, I've seen a lot of users here requesting more control over the realdrum submixes and / or separated drum tracks. As Mac suggests, having the midi files of the recordings allow that, and even more: for example, the user can easily build his own versions of my realtracks with his choosen vsti, and have complete control over the mix (btw, I got the idea from a post in the wishlist forum, but unfortunately I don't remember the poster's name )
All that works only if you have separate drum tracks. With stereo tracks you need to split at the transients....
Yes it is a pain to try an separate stereo kits, that's why I say if PG recorded original drums in multitrack it would be great but if they just recorded direct to stereo there is not much hope for improvement.
Also we need an instant preview in the loop browser as in most other DAWs, in most loop browsers it will preview the loop in the project tempo and key, it would be great if you could have RB looping a section while and be able to preview the loop at the same time as you can in Acid & Others.
SR, acid loops are very different from RTs. They are meant to pieced together piece by piece. I started in Acid pro back in the 3.0 days, and man piecing together a drum track was a lot of work.
RTs, and RD tracks are meant to be quickly generated, and blended into songs with other RTs and RDs, and along with midi tracks.
Take a real close look at BiaB there is not enough tracks for a 5 or 6 piece drum kit. So the technology was developed for folks to assemble live songs or songs to jam with, or songs to practice to BiaB was never designed for DAW recording to make albums and such.
If you look at RealBand, and see that it has the ability to add acid loops, RTs, RDs, midi tracks, multitrack midi, and wave file, and enough tracks to mix that.
I get that you want PG to make RDs with separate tracks, but it was never done, and never planned. If you want to generate separate tracks use midi styles and the split midi command and go to work on it. For now that is all there is.
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