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#36248 - 09/13/09 04:33 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop)
PeterGannon Offline
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We're recording some more RealTracks Acoustic Piano styles with Miles Black, and are looking for some style suggestions.

These would be typically jazz or pop styles, solo or trio type styles.

Any suggestions are appreciated...
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#36249 - 09/13/09 11:25 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: PeterGannon]
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How is Miles Black on Latin jazz? Nuyorican, Eddie Palmieri, Rebeca Mauleon styles.

Maybe a Real Track remake of the Latin jazz MIDI styles. I would really like a Real Track version of the Guaracha style in particular.
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#36250 - 09/13/09 11:35 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: Matt Finley]
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#36251 - 09/14/09 09:57 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: WienSam]
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#36252 - 09/14/09 01:15 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: PeterGannon]
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Hi Peter

the styles of Dr John i thought where excellent and i use them alot so some realtracks of this style of playing would be good

regards Dave Hoskins
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#36253 - 09/14/09 03:09 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: jazzband]
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I'm there with Matt and John, also maybe something in the slower tempos for cool ballads at 45-65 bpm.
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#36254 - 09/14/09 04:17 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: cubanpete]
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I haven't had the opportunity to go through all the RT stuff yet, but if there's not '8 to the bar' I sure would love to hear some Boogie Woogie stuff.

'Pops' piano, such as Peter Nero, maybe?

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#36255 - 09/14/09 06:52 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: Gary Curran]
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If Miles likes to hum he could do a Glen Gould. (Ducks)
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#36256 - 09/15/09 01:10 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: John Conley]
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Stride would be great, particularly Teddy Wilson style.

For pop/ acoustic, something in the style of Kenny White would be really good.
He has played on a lot of modern-folk, singer-songwriter projects and always brings something special. You can find a list of his credits here:
http://www.kennywhite.net/pk_credits.htm

This might be a bit off base for your current RT recording, but some country piano Real Tracks would be a good addition. Something in the style of Matt Rollins.
You could throw a dart any any country record made in the late 80's through the early 2000's and chances are he's playing on it. Better yet, get Matt Rollins to record some country piano RTs. That would be fantastic.

Good luck,

John

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#36257 - 09/15/09 01:34 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: jphillips]
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You also might want to consider re-recording a couple of the older Jazz acoustic piano RTs. I'm thinking of Piano, Acoustic Rhythm Jazz sw 140 (RTs # 449, 450 and 451) and Piano, Acoustic Rhythm Jazz Ballad sw 085 (RTs # 487, 488, and 489)

The above RTs sound anemic compared to the newer Jazz piano RTs on Sets 53, 54, 57, etc. The new ones have a nice, wider stereo field and warmer tone than the ones listed above.

Thanks.

John

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#36258 - 09/16/09 02:05 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: PeterGannon]
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In the area of pop, how about some Elton John-style arpeggiated piano comping- something like what he played in "Tiny Dancer". Or like the piano in Cat Stevens' "Morning Has Broken".

In Jazz and Bossa styles, I like the selection so far, but can you record similar comping at additional tempos between the ones you already have? The tempo-stretching algorithm for the audio files doesn't work too well, especially at slower tempos than the natively-recorded tempos. I haven't noticed the glitches too much on bass, but I can hear them on piano and guitar.

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#36259 - 09/16/09 05:29 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: protostar]
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First, I agree with much of what's already been suggested. I would like to see more piano parts across slow, medium, and fast tempos and across a greater variety of styles, especially jazz, latin, ballads, country, and pop. At least real piano parts that could fit, or be used reasonbly across those categories. Also, how about a real track using that Rhodes electric piano sound with chorusing effect?

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#36260 - 09/17/09 10:56 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: J. Larry]
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I think that jazz has been covered pretty much in the midi world of biab. What we could definitely use is more solo pop accompaniment piano, country accompaniment piano, (both particularly for ballads), theater style accompaniments (not klezmer, theater), more new age style accompaniments, a la david lanz, with arpeggio in the left hand.. Anyway, those are my 2 cents...

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#36261 - 09/17/09 11:38 AM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: tradivoro1]
Edward Buckley Offline
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Hi,

No offense to tradivoro1, but we need much more jazz RTs! These are some I've been thinking about>

1. More content in the tracks! This is the biggest suggestion I have. I just sounds as though the piano player is sitting out, or playing very sparsely. Please consider more tracks in the comping styles of>Herbie Hancock, Keith Jarrett, Oscar Peterson etc, but playing with more content!

2. We need a Burning Be Bop Piano RT. Minimum 250-275.

3. I agree with Matt, we need authentic Montunos. Please listen to Gonzalo Rubacalba or Papa Luca. These Montunos could be used in Jazz styles, but would normally be used in Rhumba, Cha Cha, Salsa/Timba, etc.

4. I think many users would love to have a contemporary RT in the styles of>George Duke and Jeff Lorber. Also solo content would be great.

5. A Bruce Hornsby/Kenny Kirkland type RT and solos for Pop styles.

Hope this helps, a quick thanks to PG music for sending my disks to Mexico FREE of charge!!! What a great company hat's off to Peter again for such an amazing product that just keeps giving and giving!!!!

Ed

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#36262 - 09/17/09 01:14 PM [Styles and RealTracks Wishlist] Re: RealTracks suggestions wanted for Acoustic Piano (jazz, pop) [Re: Edward Buckley]
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More modal tracks, plus high tempo bebop.
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