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RTA #256024 07/11/14 04:16 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida 90 dB OP Veteran
OP 90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	http://people.kth.se/~johk/jdft/index.html A simple, free RTA program for anyone needing to either tune a room, check a mix or ring out a PA system. It isn't Smaart, but it isn't $900 either. p.s. Two more free RTA's, more complex, but more in depth: http://www.trueaudio.com/rta_abt1.htm http://www.roomeqwizard.com/ Last edited by 90 dB; 07/11/14 04:26 AM. Reason: Additions Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: RTA 90 dB #256042 07/11/14 08:50 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA R rockstar_not Veteran
rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	BTW, you can get a cut down version of SMAART inside of Audio Tools for iOS from Studio Six Digital. http://www.studiosixdigital.com/audiotools-modules-2/acoustic-analysis-modules/smaart_for_audiotools/ I forget how much I(my employer) paid for it, but it was silly cheap compared to past pricing of SMAART. At the time I also purchased the calibrated measurement mic that Studio Six Digital markets as well. http://www.studiosixdigital.com/audio-hardware/itestmic/ If you end up having interest, some things to keep in mind with the iTestmic: 1. The cable is only about 12" long 2. It does not come with a case My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: RTA 90 dB #256090 07/11/14 03:55 PM Off-Topic
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 21,636 Mi., USA	FWIW everyone that has a PGMusic product likely has their (included free) RTA also. Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome

Re: RTA rharv #256158 07/12/14 03:33 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida 90 dB OP Veteran
OP 90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	Originally Posted By: rharv FWIW everyone that has a PGMusic product likely has their (included free) RTA also. Didn't know that (another hidden gem in PG Land). Does it operate stand alone, or just within RB? I need a stand alone program. Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: RTA 90 dB #256170 07/12/14 05:41 AM Off-Topic
Joined: May 2000 Posts: 21,636 Mi., USA rharv Veteran
rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 21,636 Mi., USA	As DX/VST plugin, requires a host Make your sound your own! .. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome

Re: RTA rharv #256173 07/12/14 06:11 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida 90 dB OP Veteran
OP 90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	Originally Posted By: rharv As DX/VST plugin, requires a host Thanks man. I'll stick with my freebee stand alone. It takes a lot of guesswork out of ringing out a PA with a 31 band GEQ. Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: RTA 90 dB #256187 07/12/14 08:40 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA	For sure, a question that shows my lack of knowledge but I'm going to ask anyhow because I really want to know. What is the function of a RTA program or application? I think I know but want to confirm what I think. On a related subject, what are the differences between a calibrated mic, reference mic and regular mics? Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RTA 90 dB #256189 07/12/14 09:34 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA R rockstar_not Veteran
rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	RTA stands for Real Time Analyzer. When you 'pink' a room, or 'ring out a room' you normally play pink noise through your mains (and monitors if you are using wedges) and use the RTA to look at the frequency response of a measurement mic feeding the RTA. You then adjust the EQ settings you have on your bus to your mains until you get the frequency response at the measurement microphone that you desire. Devices like dbx drive-racks have made this sometimes a chore task into something that is nearly automatic and they do a fine job in my opinion. I think you can run any VST plugin as a standalone with Hermann Seib's savihost, but I've only done it with VSTi, not VST. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: RTA 90 dB #256193 07/12/14 09:46 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida 90 dB OP Veteran
OP 90 dB Veteran Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,139 Florida	In addition, the RTA mic has an almost completely flat frequency response throughout the audio spectrum. Regular mics typically have frequency "humps" mid-spectrum, and severe dropoffs at the low and high end of the frequency spectrum. "On a related subject, what are the differences between a calibrated mic, reference mic and regular mics?" http://realtraps.com/art_microphones.htm Dyslectics Untie! https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/ https://soundcloud.com/90-db https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm_3mpivKYV7T7XFJmXL-GA

Re: RTA 90 dB #256202 07/12/14 02:25 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA R rockstar_not Veteran
rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	Originally Posted By: 90 dB In addition, the RTA mic has an almost completely flat frequency response throughout the audio spectrum. Regular mics typically have frequency "humps" mid-spectrum, and severe dropoffs at the low and high end of the frequency spectrum. "On a related subject, what are the differences between a calibrated mic, reference mic and regular mics?" http://realtraps.com/art_microphones.htm Just bookmarked that Parts Express mic for future purchase reference. Thanks 90 dB. I love Ethan Winer's no nonsense approach to audio. If you've never seen his audio myths debunked YouTube, schedule yourself an hour and sit back and enjoy. You don't need a calibrated mic for the purpose of ringing out a room. You only need calibrated mics when you are doing measurements for SPL for reports, which I'm sure you already know. I seem to recall that your handle relates to past familiarity with OSHA's noise exposure law. -Scott My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

Re: RTA 90 dB #256203 07/12/14 02:28 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,130 Winston-Salem, NC USA	Thanks to the both of you for your answers. Very informative. Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: RTA 90 dB #256204 07/12/14 02:31 PM Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA R rockstar_not Veteran
rockstar_not Veteran R Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,913 Colorado Springs, CO, USA	OOohhh man, 90 dB, with Parts Express, you just gave me some additional GAS. Check this out: http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-imm-6-calibrated-measurement-microphone-for-iphone-ipad-tablet-and-android--390-810 With that, and Studio Six Digitals Audio Tools (which is pretty dang cheap), and this little 16$ mic, you have a real single channel SMAART analyzer nearly in your pocket. Here's the audio tools package at the App store for you interested iOS folks: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/audiotools/id325307477?mt=8 Note that the SMAART single channel module is $50 in-app purchase. My Songs, photos, writing,etc. My Sound Cloud

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