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#27337 - 06/26/09 06:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi
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I have got to say they took their time to prepare this new driver, but THIS VERY DAY a new driver appeared on their website.

http://support.creative.com/downloads/?h=7

"Driver
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi series driver 2.18.0013
Filesize : 54.1 MB Download Show Details
Release date : 26 Jun 09
This download is a driver providing Microsoft® Windows® 7, Windows Vista® and Windows XP support for Creative Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ series of audio devices. For more details, read the rest of this web release note."

This is the first time I have been able to get some of the additional features of my XtremeGamer working on my Vista 64bit computer.

The first thing it gave me was the AutoUpdate facility, then a new CD Burner Plugin for MediaSource 5 Player/Organiser, and then the Smart Recorder.

Joy, oh, joy! About bloody time!
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#27338 - 06/26/09 07:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Graham Martin]
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Thanx for the heads up!
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#27339 - 06/26/09 09:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: MarioD]
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Hi Graham,

Well worth waiting for and they even have the next generation ready for Windows 7 and this is because this time Microsoft really cooperated with the external developers all along the way and not the disaster of Vista

Wow this is a great audio package

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#27340 - 06/30/09 04:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Jazzman]
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I should have known better than to get excited about anything Creative puts out. Beware folks! This driver can cause a problem with your computer closing down if you are using Vista. I am actually using 64bit Vista which they claimed the driver was designed for. My soundcard is XtremeGamer. The close down takes forever - up to ten minutes! There are a bunch of people on the Creative forum with the same problem.

Gees, Creative are the most frustrating software company to deal with. They never get anything right. Don't you think it would have been basic procedure and quality control to test it thoroughly before releasing?
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#27341 - 06/30/09 12:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Graham Martin]
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Why do people keep buying their cards for music?!?!? The card itself is called XtremeGamer, not XtremeRecorder!!!!!
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#27342 - 06/30/09 12:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Robh]
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Why do people keep buying their cards for music?!?!?




Well, mine seems to be working just fine, but then again, I've only got Vista 32. I did not upgrade the drivers. I have it because it natively supports soundfonts. Sure, you can find other soundfont solutions, but just loading the soundfont directly into the sound card's bank slot is the easiest, and when I tell a (non-VSC/non-DX) piece of software to use the soundcard, it then uses my soundfont of choice.

For everything else, I've not had any problems with my XtremeGamer. I bought mine because it was the cheapest true X-Fi card (the XtremeAudio is not a true X-Fi). Of course, it is ironic that the high-end version of the X-Fi is called the Fatality.

I'm not defending Creative, because in the past I've spent several frustrating hours with them on the phone to no satisfaction; I'm just saying that my XtremeGamer seems to work fine under both Vista32 Ultimate SP2 and on my XP Pro SP3 machines.
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#27343 - 06/30/09 03:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Graham Martin]
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Hi,

We had a client yesterday with exactly the same problem as you describe on Vista 64 - we simply uninstalled the download - cleared all traces and re-installed with all applications - virus - spyware etc turned off and it worked as normal

A warning is given to ensure no other application is running as this is a big driver package

The reason Creative calls the X-Fi is called XtremeGamer is because of a rationalisation of the range of cards they had prior to Vista when they had some cards doing almost the same job - they incorporated the best of audio creation and gaming and because gaming was 83% of sales they called it X-F- Xtreme Gamer with the description to state that it replaced the audio creation and gamer features in one card

I have never had a problem with Creative over 8 years of use and we rate it as the best value for money card giving the widest range of features - to date we have installed some 600 cards without problems

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#27344 - 06/30/09 04:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Jazzman]
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FYI, I just bought a new laptop, an HP Pavilion DV7-1285dx 'Entertainment Center', with Vista-64 bit on it. I'm also beta-testing the new Windows-7 Release Candidate/64-bit O.S.

I installed 64-bit/Windows-7 last night, and I downloaded and installed the new beta driver for the X-Fi, USB_W7DRVBETA_US_1_01_0092.exe, and it's working extremely well. I got BIAB/2009 working on it pretty well... I did notice one weirdness: I had to install the Coyote/ForteDXi package, and as it was installing, I saw all of the various instruments flash by as they were being installed. When I actually started up BiaB and went in to configure the MIDI options, and selected the ForteDXi, the only thing showing up for the channels in the config window for the Forte was the line marked "Drum Kit"... All of the other instruments on the channels were not showing up.

So far, all of the songs that I have "frozen" work just fine, and all of the styles where I've tried the built-in Demo work just fine. I don't notice anything weird... But it strikes me as odd that none of the channel information shows up on the Forte/DXi...

Just thought I would pass it along...

(I don't play any games, so I don't know if the new Win-7 driver works with those or not, but I haven't noticed anything else unusual...)
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#27345 - 06/30/09 05:33 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: LadyJazzer]
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8 years here on an old M-Audio delta 24/96 card no issues , just update the driver every now and again, and the mon mix feature is great. Having a card that was designed for recording from the getgo is worth the few extra bucks. Sound fonts are nice but with the good font players and better GM sets today not necessary. Just sayin'
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#27346 - 06/30/09 06:25 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Robh]
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When you've got a laptop that only takes PCMCIA/Express-54 form-factor cards, and you want something better than the built-in mediocre sound-card, you make do... Just sayin'.

How nice for you that you found something that's worked for 8 years...


Edited by LadyJazzer (06/30/09 06:26 PM)
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#27347 - 06/30/09 07:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: LadyJazzer]
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That can be a problem, but there are loads of options for laptops that avoid the creative issues, and have better mixer software setup, and better convertors.

But if the creative cards are working them great, but i see on just about every forum related to this subject people are having fits getting decent drivers and such, so why endure it when there are options. there is no reason to make do, when there are a plethora of options, i love that word Plethora!

M-Audio surely has had some driver issues, but they seem to always work them out.


Edited by Robh (06/30/09 07:59 PM)
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#27348 - 06/30/09 07:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Robh]
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I tell you what... You come up with a M-Audio card that fits into an Express-54 form-factor for a new HP laptop, and find drivers for it that will work with Windows-7, and you got a deal...
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#27349 - 06/30/09 07:29 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: LadyJazzer]
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I tell you what... You come up with a M-Audio card that fits into an Express-54 form-factor for a new HP laptop, and find drivers for it that will work with Windows-7, and you got a deal...




M-Audio Fast Track Pro

Not Express54, but USB connect.

Known to work and play well with pgmusic products.


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#27350 - 06/30/09 07:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Jazzman]
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Quote:

Hi,

We had a client yesterday with exactly the same problem as you describe on Vista 64 - we simply uninstalled the download - cleared all traces and re-installed with all applications - virus - spyware etc turned off and it worked as normal

A warning is given to ensure no other application is running as this is a big driver package

The reason Creative calls the X-Fi is called XtremeGamer is because of a rationalisation of the range of cards they had prior to Vista when they had some cards doing almost the same job - they incorporated the best of audio creation and gaming and because gaming was 83% of sales they called it X-F- Xtreme Gamer with the description to state that it replaced the audio creation and gamer features in one card

I have never had a problem with Creative over 8 years of use and we rate it as the best value for money card giving the widest range of features - to date we have installed some 600 cards without problems

jazzman




Hi Jazzman

Well, I must admit I did not shut down my anti virus. I'll give it another go. Is there a quick way to ensure that everything is

ou don't by any chance have a list of files to delete so that I have 'cleared all traces'?

I have been putting up with the slow Shut Down because it is such a pleasure to have the extra Creative software working correctly. Plus - and I don't think this is wishful thinking - the sound seems so much clearer.
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#27351 - 06/30/09 08:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: psssssst New Driver for Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi [Re: Graham Martin]
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This is kind of my point, If i have to shut down the antiviurs and then download a driver bare on the net, no thanks! I have already had a virus wipe me out once.

If creative would make a driver that worked great, but so far they continue year after year to cause grief.

As far as windows 7, I for the life of me can't understand why someone would want to be a guinnea pig for microsoft, If this is just a curiousity fine but this is my main hobby, and a true passion. I still do not track in Vista, XP is rock stinkin' solid, I will upgrade to window 7 when it is likewise. I understand Gary cause he loves to experiment, and has th resources to do so, but be clear he still has other options available to get things done, not relying on Win7 entirely. When they call it a release canidate that is because it might be ready to release and this is the best so far, but it is not done yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

If all one has is one laptop, why jump into the pond on every new idea, or driver set, or interface that comes rolling by, they all need maturity before true reliability is there. There is a reaosn that noone else has a PCI express card, what it is i do not know, but on almost every forum i go to there are tons of folks suffering with creative driver issues.

The reason i still track with an 8 year old M-Audio is that in those 8 years it has never crashed, not once. When a new driver is needed they work it out in time. there is something new coming out all the time, the forums are full of people trying to get their new3 toys to work with their systems. Grief by the tons, not for me.

I do not use beta drivers, i wait till they are release versions. Like Mac said, i go for what plays nice with my software.


Edited by Robh (06/30/09 08:15 PM)
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