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#72286 - 05/08/10 08:59 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] MIDI files from internet
basementb_2000 Offline
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I have been downloading MIDI music files from the the internet that others have created to a flash drive. I then use that flash drive within BIAB (open MIDI) to play along (with my guitar) on my YAMAHA keyboard. I also do some home-recording and this MIDI file then drives the process (I have a KORG digital recorder and a Quintet voice harmonizer). I am finding that the MIDI files from the flash drive apparently contain a lot of MIDI instructions that I may not want...ie: (1) instruments that apparently my Yamaha keyboard does not have which cause very strange inappropriate sounds (2) MIDI instructions that tell the Quintet voice synthesizer to do things that I don't want it to do. My question, I guess, is there a good MIDI editor within BIAB to remove certain MIDI instructions that I don't want? I have noticed that all MIDI data opened from a file apparently is received by BIAB as MELODY (even tho the actual MIDI instructions have the channel that they're intended for). I have tried saving the MIDI file as a new BIAB song with a BIAB style with "iffy" results. Has anyone else tried to do this sort of thing? I do like to use these external MIDI songs because many of the songs are done much better than I could ever do them and there's a ton of things other people have done out on the internet. I'll keep plugging away at this, but if anyone has ideas that could get me going in the right direction, it would be appreciated. Hopefully I've stated my problem somewhat accurately. Thanks.

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#72287 - 05/08/10 10:14 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: basementb_2000]
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For your application you may want to try Realband instead. It comes with BiaB if you have a recent version.

It has a very nice editor, abd can remove all the extra data in one shot if you want.

It is called Event Editor and there is a checkbox for 'use data filter' which will allow you to only remove the items you want from any track.

Also the tracks will open a regular tracks without any 'Melody' association and such.
Just an idea..
Also this should be posted in Off-Topic for best response, as this section is for giving tips learned along the way.
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#72288 - 05/08/10 09:12 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: rharv]
jakekeasling Offline
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In BIAB and other PG programs, click on window, then new, then events and edit form there.

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#72289 - 08/04/10 12:55 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: basementb_2000]
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Help!. i can't download midi files from my bowers because quicktime only plays it..how to i change this?.?

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#72290 - 08/04/10 08:18 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: ]
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Have you tried to right-click and 'save as' ?
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#72291 - 08/06/10 03:43 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: basementb_2000]
Alessia222 Offline
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On Midi4u, right click the 'Download' button and click on 'Save link as' or 'Save Target As', something like that. The words will be different, depending on which browser you're using.
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#72292 - 08/06/10 10:30 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: basementb_2000]
Pat Marr Offline
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Quote:

I have been downloading MIDI music files from the the internet that others have created to a flash drive. I then use that flash drive within BIAB (open MIDI) to play along (with my guitar) on my YAMAHA keyboard. I also do some home-recording and this MIDI file then drives the process (I have a KORG digital recorder and a Quintet voice harmonizer). I am finding that the MIDI files from the flash drive apparently contain a lot of MIDI instructions that I may not want...ie: (1) instruments that apparently my Yamaha keyboard does not have which cause very strange inappropriate sounds (2) MIDI instructions that tell the Quintet voice synthesizer to do things that I don't want it to do. My question, I guess, is there a good MIDI editor within BIAB to remove certain MIDI instructions that I don't want?




the symptoms you describe sound like you are playing General Midi songs on a non-GM synth. That results in patches that are supposed to be a piano (for example) being played as something else. I have a Yamaha keyboard, and its patch set is NOT general Midi

You could try loading the MIDI files into RealBand, and select a general Midi soft synth as your MIDI playback device and see if you get the correct instrument sounds. I think you will have to remap the instruments in the MIDI file if you are going to send the MIDI output to your yamaha keyboard as playback device.

Alternatively, check your yamaha manual to see if it has a GM (General Midi) mode. Depending on your experience with MIDI, this may or may not make any sense. You may want to post the model number of your yamaha keyboard so somebody can find the manual online and see if it has a GM mode. Then maybe we can coach you through the setup step by step.

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#72293 - 08/07/10 10:56 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: Pat Marr]
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Window-New-Event List should get you to the editor you need to work on those items you mentioned in BiaB.
As mentioned above by jakekeasling


Edited by rharv (08/07/10 10:57 AM)
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#72294 - 08/09/10 08:03 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: MIDI files from internet [Re: basementb_2000]
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I am finding that the MIDI files from the flash drive apparently contain a lot of MIDI instructions that I may not want...ie: (1) instruments that apparently my Yamaha keyboard does not have which cause very strange inappropriate sounds (2) MIDI instructions that tell the Quintet voice synthesizer to do things that I don't want it to do.




It may be only that Yamaha gear usually uses the older Japanese method of Patch numbering, which is called "Zero Based" -- instead of the first patch being numbered as 001 and the last as 128, many Yamahas that are not marked on the front panel as being "GM compatable" will start with 000 as the first patch (Grand Piano, which is 001 on Roland and other GM synths) and ends at 127.

Same number of patches, but the numbering scheme is "one off".

Inside BiaB, in the GM menu, you can set BB to be Zero Based to accomodate the Yamaha soundbank as a global setting. That way, you don't have to deal with altering all those MIDI files as this is a global setting.


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