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#275750 - 12/20/14 04:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] JBridge not working for me - resolved
Sonny Ray Offline
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Installed JBridge. It resides in my Programs Folder. I watched the video. I tried to install a 64bit VST Nectar2 plugin in both BIAB and RB but I still get the same "won't work" message as before, that is, pre-2015 BB/RB. I'm not sure how to proceed or troubleshoot.

Should the JBridge program folder be in the BB Folder? Should I delete and reinstall - how do I do reinstall? (So many questions!)

Thanks in advance for any help.


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[reply by Peter Gannon/PG Music]: Hi Sonny Ray: Please see my detailed reply at the bottom of this thread. In our testing, the 64 bit plugin that you mentioned works fine in Band-in-a-Box 2015 with jbridge. The plugin to use is "iZotope Nectar 2.dll" (this works in Band-in-a-Box 2015, including 64 bit and 32 bit ). The issue likely arose because you chose a different plugin name, that is iZNectar2.dll which is a "VST 3" and not a VST plugin. But please try it with "iZotope Nectar 2.dll" and it should work fine. Peter Gannon
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#275753 - 12/20/14 05:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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Sonny,

Did you get JBridge from PG Music? If not, what version do you have?

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#275756 - 12/20/14 05:33 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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A wont work message likely means that you don't have the current version of jbridge. Try the menu help,show log of yellow messages. That should record the exact message, which usually says more Info,
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#275846 - 12/21/14 12:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
Sonny Ray Offline
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Hi,

Noel: Yes, I purchased my JBridge from BB: Version 1.7b3

Peter: I don't understand the last part of you message: "Try the menu help,show log of yellow messages. That should record the exact message, which usually says more Info" I've gone to help and I've looked at the activity log but I can't access any message pertaining to my attempts to access a 64bit plugin.

I read the a later posting similar to mine about the same problem and followed the link to jBridge. I've followed their set up instructions but still am getting the same result: RB won't recognize the 64bit version of Nectar2 (it still recognizes the 32bit format) or any other 64bit plug on my computer.

Not sure how to proceed.

Thanks for your help,
SonnyRay
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#275851 - 12/21/14 12:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
Sonny Ray Offline
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I don't know if this makes any difference to the above: I just clicked on the JBridge icon and noticed at the top of the box this info: "jBridger Tool V1.25 (jBridge V1.7b3)" This seems intentionally confusing about which version is actually operating?

SonnyRay
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#275915 - 12/21/14 06:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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If you don't mind my asking and purely out of curiosity, since I don't have Nectar 2 I can't check, but in the folder:

"C:\Program Files\VST" (the 64 bit folder) or WHEREVER you told iZotope installer to install 64 bit Nectar 2:

How many, and what are the names of, each .dll that contain the word "Nectar" are there?

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#275934 - 12/21/14 09:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Larry Kehl]
Sonny Ray Offline
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Hi,
There's several plugins that come with Nectar2. This is how they're noted:

iznectar2.dll
iznectar2BreathControl.dll
iznectar2PitchEditor.dll

When I bought the plugin I downloaded both the 32 & 64bit versions.

I can used the 32bit versions with BB/RB, but I'm trying to get JBridge to work with the 64bit versions, and it ain't working.

Does anyone at PG think I should reinstall JBridge?

Thanks for your help,
SonnyRay
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#275942 - 12/22/14 12:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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JBridge; if you want to use a 64bit plugin: run jbridger, select the source 64bit plugin dll, and install the newly created 32 bit version through jbridger in folder or location where you want BIAB to find it using BIAB's add VST function. Might be handy to create the new 32bit one with *.32.dll extension. If the converted vst plug works partly , thus only if it's GUI shows but it will not run and gives you error messages, you have some options for specific corrections if you click on settings below the plugin it self. -F


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#275972 - 12/22/14 05:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: fiddler2007]
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That is NOT required anymore - BIAB/RB recognizes JBridge natively, for lack of a better description.

Install BIAB, Install the v1.73 JBridge - then simply load your 64 bit plugin like it was a 32 bit upon - no extra steps.

That's how its working for my 64 bit plug ins like ST 3, Kontact 5, etc.

The reason I asked about the actual .dll names is that because that is all you have to pick them in the VSTi plugin pull down in BIAB/RB and not all .dlls are the actual VST/VSTi . And i know from a few "wrong picks" on my part it will crash JBridge - AND one was nectar elements it has two .dlls and only ONE is the correct actual application


Edited by Larry Kehl (12/22/14 05:39 AM)
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#275990 - 12/22/14 07:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Larry Kehl]
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Hello Larry and everyone,

Unfortunately I also have problems using jBridge with BIAB 2015 myself.
I bought jBridge with my BIAB 2015 upgrade.

When I launch BIAB 2015 and try to load a 64 bits VST plugin I get a message that 64 bits plugins can only be used with jBridge and that I should order it! So BIAB obviously doesnt notice the presence of jBridge on my PC. After the first message an appcrash message follows for Auxhost.exe.

When I start jBridger and follow the steps for 32 bits host I get en error message 'No valid files found' as soon as I point to a preferred folder for the jBridge adapter files. I have tried numerous times to uninstall/reinstall jBridge with and without virusscanner activated but it doesnt work.

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#275998 - 12/22/14 08:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Valentino]
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I don't have this problem. I ran the installation of BIAB, and a day later -- because "J" took about a day to send my file -- I did install Jbridge without any changes to the install routine.

It works for me. Caveat: so far I only used SampleTank 3.
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#276008 - 12/22/14 10:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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[Sonny Ray] >> There's several plugins that come with Nectar2. This is how they're noted:
iznectar2.dll


Hi Sonny Ray,

We tested Band-in-a-Box 2015 with Izotope's Nectar 2, and it's working fine for us with Band-in-a-Box 2015 with jbridge. That's both the 64 bit version and the 32 bit version.

Note that the name of the DLL to use for the 64 bit version is iZotope Nectar 2.dll (not iznectar2.dll as you noted above).
The Nectar Plugins come in various plugin types, including
"VST" : iZotope Nectar 2.dll (this works in Band-in-a-Box 2015, including 64 bit and 32 bit )
and "VST 3" : iznectar2.dll (this is a 'VST 3' format plugin, so not supported at all in Band-in-a-Box


Band-in-a-Box supports VST plugins, but not "VST 3" plugins. Most companies making VST 3' also make a VST version (as Nectar does). You can read about other software users (like Reaper) discussions about VST 3 here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=118616
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#276012 - 12/22/14 10:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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[valentino] >> When I launch BIAB 2015 and try to load a 64 bits VST plugin I get a message that 64 bits plugins

This is likely the same issue that Sonny Ray reported. You are likely choosing the 'VST 3' version of your plugin instead of the 'VST' version. Band-in-a-Box has never supported 'VST 3' plugin format, and but we do support the more common VST standard plugins.

The message we issue is currently that it isn't a valid VST plugin, which we will elaborate on in future patches of Band-in_A_Box to tell the user if its a 'VST 3' plugin or not.

Please note that this issue isn't related to 64 bit or 32 bit, and if BiaB was a native 64 bit app, it still wouldn't support 'VST 3' plugins.
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#276042 - 12/22/14 01:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: PeterGannon]
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Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
[Sonny Ray] >> There's several plugins that come with Nectar2. This is how they're noted:
iznectar2.dll


Hi Sonny Ray,

We tested Band-in-a-Box 2015 with Izotope's Nectar 2, and it's working fine for us with Band-in-a-Box 2015 with jbridge. That's both the 64 bit version and the 32 bit version.

Note that the name of the DLL to use for the 64 bit version is iZotope Nectar 2.dll (not iznectar2.dll as you noted above).
The Nectar Plugins come in various plugin types, including
"VST" : iZotope Nectar 2.dll (this works in Band-in-a-Box 2015, including 64 bit and 32 bit )
and "VST 3" : iznectar2.dll (this is a 'VST 3' format plugin, so not supported at all in Band-in-a-Box


Band-in-a-Box supports VST plugins, but not "VST 3" plugins. Most companies making VST 3' also make a VST version (as Nectar does). You can read about other software users (like Reaper) discussions about VST 3 here: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=118616



Hey Peter,

Any plans to support VST 3 or higher (3.0 came out in 2008 and 3.5 in 2011)? Any way for us to know which one we should load in BIAB? I see you identified the one for Nectar and I assume other Izotope products are similar but what about other VSTs? Any quick way for us to know in advance whether they will work in BIAB?

Thanks.


Edited by JohnJohnJohn (12/22/14 01:38 PM)

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#276051 - 12/22/14 02:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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With future versions of Band-in-a-Box, there will be an error message with the version number explained. Keep in mind that VST 3 isn't just a version change, it's a different plugin system.



>>> Any plans to support VST 3 or higher (3.0 came out in 2008 and 3.5 in 2011)?

No. Here's an KVR forum poll and article on the issue, and we seem to be with the majority in sticking with VST2. As the dicussion states, most hosts (Ableton etc.) don't support VST 3, and everyone supports VST 2.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5937353

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#276067 - 12/22/14 04:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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Wow. This stuff just gets better and better doesn't it?

I've said for years now that in order to understand and use digital audio software we have to become true computer nerds and this is yet another example of it. You have to read the doc's carefully and if you don't understand something you can't make assumptions about it. You then need to Google it, read the links and before you know it another whole afternoon is out the window and you're wondering what was I trying to do again??

This is like Zero in his other thread talking about an 11gig pagefile suddenly showing up on an external drive. If that happened to me I'd be going whatinhellhappened?? too.

I mean seriously who has the time to study all this crap?

But if we're going to make serious music with this software we need to know this stuff or it's just gonna be one frustration after another.

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#276091 - 12/22/14 05:04 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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Maybe there is something I don't understand (no surprise there) but over on the SONAR User Forum, there was quite a lot of angst for a couple of years about SONAR not supporting VST3. Now that it can, I don't hear much about it.
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#276097 - 12/22/14 05:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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Yes, Matt, my understanding is that SONAR does now support VST 3.
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#276136 - 12/23/14 04:12 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Matt Finley]
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Matt, if I recall correctly, you have a Motif Rack XS. It's editor can run as an VST3 in Sonar X3. Run the scan and it should be picked up. Sonar will put it into a separate VST section for VST3's in the VST pulldown menu along with your VST2's, also in a separate section of that pulldown.

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#276154 - 12/23/14 05:57 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: JBridge not working for me [Re: Sonny Ray]
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My understanding is that Reaper long ago concluded it would not adapt the new VST3 format. Something like, "...we don't need no stinkin new formats"
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