|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Hello all. How are realtracks actually generated? Is it all in the audio domain, done with pitch shifting and time stretching? I see references to being able to drag a realtrack to the top left and export it as a MIDI file. I doubt that works if it is all audio-based. Unless the export would do pitch-to-midi conversion. Example, a realtracks banjo. I'd love to get the midi notes of the plucking to use them in my DAW for driving another sound. But this does not seem to work. Has anyone ever been able to export a realtrack as a midi sequence? Maybe it only works on simple realtracks? --- Glenn http://www.reverbnation.com/GlennGalen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,131
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,131 |
Glenn,
RealTracks are audio files. Many, not all, were midi transcribed by PG Music to support fretboard display and notation. The RealTracks that have been transcribed have an underline _ beside the track button.
The midi transcription is made AFTER the audio file so it is a close representation of the performance but may not match the performance note for note.
If you export a RealTrack as midi the midi file comes from the RealTracks transcription, not from any kind of audio to midi conversion.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Thanks, Jim! That's good information.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 697
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 697 |
Win 10, 64 bit, love my Lenovo T420, BIAB 2019 (613), RB 2019 (2)
Short term memory is getting shorter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 577
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 577 |
Hi Glenn,
Interesting, I didn't know that some RTs had associated MIDI data. I often wondered what the underscore meant. Thanks Jim.
If the Realtrack you want does not have associated MIDI information the following might be an alternative for you.
Depending on which DAW you use or maybe you already have the plugin required. Anyway, my DAW came with Melodyne which allows you to drag and drop a wav file onto a MIDI track and it converts the notes to MIDI.
Hope this helps,
Rec
BIAB 2022 UltraPAK, CbB, Studio One 5 Pro, Fender USA Tele, Harley Benton Fusion & others.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,848
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,848 |
If you go to Edit in biab top left copy/move tracks then you can move the midi data from a realtrack (for those realtracks that have underlying midi data) to another track in biab and select a midi patch for it.
Be warned though it might not sound great for a lot of instruments.
musiclover
Last edited by musiclover; 01/08/15 11:17 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Receder, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of my DAW Melodyne pitch-to-midi for single instruments.
Last edited by Glenn in Minneapolis; 01/08/15 11:26 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Thanks, musiclover. 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,821
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,821 |
Receder, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of my DAW Melodyne pitch-to-midi for single instruments. This works just fine. Also Melodyne Editor will work with polyphonic audio rendering that to MIDI. Melodyne is the best audio to MIDI converter that I have ever used and in fact many times requires no editing; that is the conversion is perfect.
I want my last spoken words to be "I hid a million dollars under the........................"
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41
Enthusiast
|
|
OP
Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 41 |
Good to hear, Mario. I am going to try it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 447
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 447 |
Also Melodyne Editor will work with polyphonic audio rendering that to MIDI. Not sure the Melodyne version mentioned by receder, as included in his DAW (possibly Sonar) can do polyphonic. As I understand you need at least the editor version for that. But I agree it's an excellent program. Col
WIN 10, BIAB WIN2022, Studio One 5, Audient iD4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 577
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 577 |
Apologies for any confusion. The version that comes with sonar x3 producer is indeed not the full editor although it will do simple monophonic conversions. It may do for simple banjo tracks where chords aren't being played.
As it happens I upgraded to the full editor version of Melodyne as I was so impressed by the simpler version. It wasn't cheap though but I guess quality costs.
Rec
BIAB 2022 UltraPAK, CbB, Studio One 5 Pro, Fender USA Tele, Harley Benton Fusion & others.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 447
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 447 |
As it happens I upgraded to the full editor version of Melodyne as I was so impressed by the simpler version. It wasn't cheap though but I guess quality costs. Rec Yes, I did the same - Great program
WIN 10, BIAB WIN2022, Studio One 5, Audient iD4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!
Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!
Paket | Was ist Neu
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,662
Posts735,550
Members38,532
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean