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There's also this comparison of DAWs that gives a reasonable general idea of differences between various options.
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Welcome tk7x to the forum.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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Hey, VideoTrack, I've actually been around for a while, lurking. Haven't had anything worthwhile to post up until now.
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I haven't used RealBand so I can't compare, but as to Notation programs, I have used Encore for 23 years. I have also been a beta tester for them for the last decade. I love the user interface in Encore.
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I didn't know there was another Encore user here! I have used it since 1992 and was also a beta tester for a decade until the latest company reorganization, which shook my confidence in the company's future.
Encore is my second-favorite user interface to enter melodies (BIAB is my first choice) and my favorite to enter everything else needed for scores and lead sheets. I did parts for a full symphony orchestra last year using Encore.
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- Availability of VST's,
- Price,
- Value for money,
- Ease of Workflow,
- Capability, Features
Reaper. It works well not only with VSTs but with ancient DXIs like Coyote. Price and Value for money - uncomparable. Ease of Workflow - easy enough after you get used to it. Capability, Features - after latest MIDI additions it's just a pleasure to work with. Drop MIDI track from BIAB to Reaper is a breeze. But the most important for me is stability - couple of crashes for 2 years!  I don't think I'll be using RealBand. Slava
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[quote=VideoTrack] ... But the most important for me is stability - couple of crashes for 2 years! I don't think I'll be using RealBand. Slava Hi Slava, thanks for your feedback. Remember though that no other DAW can do what RealBand can, and that is to generate tracks from PGM supplied song files. Real Band is a hybrid of BiaB and a DAW, so it offers some functionality that other DAW's cannot.
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I manage to crash one DAW about as often as another.
It may be because of my familiarity/unfamiliarity with one compared to another, but as VideoTrack mentioned; because RB allows the added BiaB generation features it is the one I spend more time with. That reason alone makes the effort worth it for me.
I can get any of them to do what I want with a little effort .. except generate tracks. Only RB does that.
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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There's also this comparison of DAWs that gives a reasonable general idea of differences between various options. it blows my mind that PGMusic products aren't even on this list! A while ago Peter Gannon posted a similar comparison of music making programs, but it was based on market share... on THAT list PGMusic was way high on the list... ahead of all be maybe 2 or 3 of the DAWs in this list. I guess some of us will have to join the site that hosts this list so we can add RealBand and list ITS strengths!
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I use Logic Pro.. mostly because I have been using it for over 20 years, and am very comfortable with it.. Just made the move to Logic Pro X..
I think the Daw one uses is not that critical.. They all do the job, some are stronger in some areas than other. It really boils down to what your are comfortable with..
I took a free music course at Coursera.org (a great place).. These are online college courses, offered for free. The songwriting course by Pat Patterson is great.. He is a teacher at Berklee online, there the course cost about $1200.. At Coursera, there are a HUGE number of students (65,000 at one of Pats courses..) so of course you get now personal one on one (go to Berklee to do that) you are graded by your peers. If they didn't get the material right, they might give you an unjustified bad grade.. Nothing you can do about that, except learn from their mistake. There is not penalty for failing, quoting, etc.. You just walk away with some great knowledge.. Right now I am taking how to write 4 part harmony like Mozart.. quite intriguing.) I won't have to rely on BIAB excellent harmony feature..
We had to use Reaper in one course, and because I never used it before it was a PIA. It would have been better had I learnt Reaper before the course began..
I have thought about Nuendo, but the price puts me off.
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