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How about having certain level headed long time forum members set up with limited moderator privileges?
That way, when the spammers come calling on a Friday night, we don't have to set here and look at the damage that a spammer does in a few minutes time for the entire weekend.
I'm suggesting that PG Music and Peter Gannon select a few folks here who would have the ability to remove spammers immediately.
I haven't seen many offensive threads here (fortunately) like I have seen in other forums, so locking a thread or banning a user doesn't seem to happen here as far as I can recall.... but I have now seen two serious spammer attacks, both of which occurred over a weekend. It would be nice if there were several... perhaps 3 to 6 regulars here who could remove them and place them into a hidden folder to be reviewed and permanently deleted or re-instated as the case might be, by the PG staff when they return to work on Monday mornings.
What say ye Peter?
Another forum site I visit has recently done this and the "user mods" have been doing a great job keeping the spam out almost as soon as it appears. Locked threads and banned folks are more common there but again, that has worked well.
Sure beats having to look at post after post of this:
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I can only add weight to that, your right we don't see much rubbish but annoying when we do, and can do nothing about it except report it by clicking the "Notify Moderator" button.
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One forum that has user moderators successfully is the Cakewalk site (makers of SONAR). That may be the one you mentioned, Herb. This does work well, and it's been in place a few months.
Another feature there that works very well is if three users flag a post, it gets removed for review. Spam doesn't last long.
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That could be useful. Those moderators need to be from different time zones around the world to be really effective.
But as I said in another thread about spammers, being able to flag a post/thread could already be helpful. There are other forums where three "spam flags" only show the flagged title of the post. A user still could read that post if the user wanted to. YouTube has such a feature and forum.dict.cc has a similar feature.
I just don't know if the programmers of this forum software here have this feature implemented.
If not, some forum members with these privileges sure would be useful.
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+1 for showing a flag that a post has been reported to the Moderators.
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Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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I don't think there is any need for more "management" at all.
I've got enough of that in my day-to-day life...
Whoever is looking after this forum is doing ONE HECK OF A JOB!!!!
A Big Thank You. You are doing a Great job!!!
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Plus it looks like someone was able to remove them and on a Sunday no less.
What Floyd said ^^^ +1
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I don't think there is any need for more "management" at all.
I've got enough of that in my day-to-day life...
Whoever is looking after this forum is doing ONE HECK OF A JOB!!!!
A Big Thank You. You are doing a Great job!!!
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I don't think anyone is advocating management, just spam removal.
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I agree that there is a defined need for better spam management.
Not necessarily management or rulings on users posts, but just the ability to remove spam and block further posts from the spammers.
Moreover, this could be improved by nominating users from different time-zones. Creating a 24-hours watch, so to speak.
Also, another +1 is for an external flag to show the spam had already been reported.
There are many proven, responsible and genuine users of the forum that trust could be placed with for managing spam posts.
PGM could make the rules on how this management would be used.
I do hope that PGM adopt some form of better control than what is currently available.
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Yup, I was referring to the newly instituted Cakewalk user moderators. They have limited ability to moderate the forum and there's a small handful of them watching the forums for spammers, trolls, and flamers. I had forgotten that Cakewalk has a system set up where any user can FLAG a post as spam, and when 3 different users FLAG it, it gets removed from view and goes into a hidden folder for the moderators to review.
It's been a while since I used that 3 strikes feature over there but I do think there's a FLAG icon that pops up to indicate a post is flagged by other users. I've seen spam disappear in a matter of minutes with users flagging it.
Even that feature would work well to eliminate the spam. I don't think that we need to have "user mods" spread out around the world in various time zones.....Just having the ability to FLAG posts and a " 3 strikes and you're out" set up would work. Having PG staff mods check in on the weekends would be a good idea too. If PG doesn't want to give this authority to user mods to remove the spam then perhaps a "direct to the moderators" email link so that we could notify them on the weekends.
There's many different ways this problem can be dealt with. So far, it's not been a huge problem. But here in the past several weeks, I've seen 2 major spamming attacks, and we get the occasional lone spammer who realizes that most forums are left un-moderated on weekends and decides to post a few commercial spams for their website or new music CD release.
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Yep, also agree Herb. The 3 strikes and you're out idea would be a very good approach.
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Additionally, with the three strikes method, only forum members of a certain title level should be able to flag, i.e. journeyman can, but not newbie.
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Am I over simplifying (I do that sometimes you know) but let's say just don't click it, much less let it get under our skin?
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Am I over simplifying (I do that sometimes you know) but let's say just don't click it, much less let it get under our skin?
Later, That works when a spammer posts one spam. However, the one a few weeks ago had 3 FULL PAGES of spams.....the first forum member's post was near the bottom of page 3. Nope.... there needs to be some way to remove that kind of attack quickly. The latest one wasn't nearly that bad but it did have multiple posts on the pages it hit.
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Am I over simplifying (I do that sometimes you know) but let's say just don't click it, much less let it get under our skin?
Later, Also, sometimes you don't know it's spam until you actually see what the content is.
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Am I over simplifying (I do that sometimes you know) but let's say just don't click it, much less let it get under our skin?
Later, My thoughts exactly! Forums that add captcha prevent a small amount of annoying spam at the cost of annoying every user every time they post!
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Captcha just doesn't seem to be very robust these days...
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