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I was playing a nice User Showcase song today, and when it finished another one started - which I also recognized as a User Showcase song - so I just left things on in a jukebox mode. I guess this feature was just the site (soundcloud etc) having some algorithm that plays other songs from the same customer or something.
Anyway, it got me thinking that it would be cool if User Showcase songs could play as a "radio" - jukebox (with the composers permission of course). Since the songs are hosted on all kinds of different sites, I'm wondering if/how this could be done.
So I'm asking for input:
- does this sound like a good idea?
- do have suggestions for how it should work... Should it just play songs at random in any genre or ? Likely be good to have a country user showcase station for example, and another for rock or jazz.
- does anyone know of software that would help with this? For example. Maybe soundcloud or somewhere else has a feature like this. Or there is off-the-shelf software or site to build a radio station from a list of song links...
There are over 3,000 songs posted in the User Showcase, so if only a small % want to be part of the radio, that would be a lot.
Peter
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Hi Peter, if you have a Soundcloud account you can readily set up a favorites playlist containing songs from other members whom you "follow." I have one as many forum users also use SC. What I need to check is a determination of whether or not a user can play another user's favorites. And of course this would preclude forum members who do not use SC. But if PG Music had an account you could upload songs from those members. I'm on my iPhone now but I'll look further into SC when we get home.
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It appears that there are sites that allow you to create your own radio station... and it appears to be no charge... https://www.radionomy.com/en/static/produce
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I like this idea a lot!
If you can somehow make it work under the umbrella of the PGMusic website, and keep it exclusive to songs created with PGMusic products, it would really stir up interest in your products as the only way to be included in the fun!
I guess it could work either as a downloadable app, or as an integral part of the PGMusic site... but either way, what a great idea!
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I think it's a great idea. Having the flexibility to have random selections of genres (anything goes in the mix), or selecting to listen to a 'radio station' by specific style (jazz, pop, rock) etc would definitely be beneficial.
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>>> It appears that there are sites that allow you to create your own radio station... and it appears to be no charge...
Floyd,
Thanks. It's an amazing time of the world we live in. Who knew?...you can setup a free radio station, with your own playlists. You know when you're hearing a new idea or product, and it takes a few minutes of (fun) creative thinking to imagine all kinds of interesting things that could be done with that. So thanks for that link, I'll check that out.
Ideally we want something that :
- plays a song "randomly" from the user showcase database ( of songs that composers have approved to be allowed in the radio). Randomly is in quotes, because there might be features to modify the randomness like apple radio has- "less like this". "More like this"
- for each song has a text input page. This would be the type of thing that is present in the very first posting in the user showcase. Namely the composer talking about the song, describing BB/RB Realtracks used, and providing a link to the composers website for more info.
One great thing about songs, is that they sound better with every listen. My mother is 96, and has played music her whole life. She can enjoy Moonlight Sonata as much or more than anyone, even though she's heard it thousands of times. It doesn't work that way other art forms, such as movies, paintings etc. "want to watch Citizen Kane... Nope... Seen it". But if someone says "want to hear' Purple-people-eater' Of course...that's a great song,"
My point here is that any exposure that songs can get from radio airplay should enhance the popularity. For example, you (Floyd) have written an incredible number of great songs. I'd love to hear them as part of the radio repertoire, just as much as like to hear Billy Joel's songs.
Peter
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Nice find floyd. I think this site or a similar one would give Peter something very close to what he described. And although the files would have to all uploaded they would likely be much easier to structure for this purpose than with Soundcloud. This is exciting and we hope it comes about! J&B
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I think it is a great idea and had actually made a similar recommendation not thinking of the entire user forum but about the wonderful collaboration currently going on here on the User Forum and organized by Joanne Cooper (JosieC) having various forum members either record with her or create their own cover of one of her originals.
Here is a partial quote:
"This is a big project and quite a testament to the forum talent, camaraderie and skill with the Band in a Box suite of tools.
I think it would be great if PGMusic could find a way to gather all the songs of this project once it is complete so they would be in a User Showcase subset on the forum to be accessed as the complete set together. A PGMusic feature video showcasing the songs and styles much as the videos they release with each new version would also be something to consider.
Much as we hear on a PGMusic video touting RealTracks being real instruments being played by real musicians, how about: These are real people from all around the world, collaborating on real original songs binding it all together on the PGMusic Forum using the suite of Band in a Box/RealBand tools. "
I think this is a good idea for Forum users as well as PGMusic. Hope it all comes together.
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Hi Peter, I reckon this is a terrific idea. Some pretty spectacular talent lives in this showcase arena. Like this forum, an internet radio station is another excellent way of letting people hear just what Band In A Box and Realband can accomplish. For whatever it's worth, you've got my full support. Regards, Noel
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I like this idea a lot!
If you can somehow make it work under the umbrella of the PGMusic website, and keep it exclusive to songs created with PGMusic products, it would really stir up interest in your products as the only way to be included in the fun!
I guess it could work either as a downloadable app, or as an integral part of the PGMusic site... but either way, what a great idea! I think its is a great idea. May be attract some outside interest as well. Possibility for advertising PG products also. I would like to hear the music in its correct genre. Could have a monthly top forty by allowing others to vote. I also agree with Pat above. Rob.
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The time is right for this idea.... there are now enough songs on the showcase to play nonstop for quite a long time without ever repeating a song! And if anything, the showcase posts are increasing so fast that even new songs get buried in the avalanche of newer songs.
With the paradigm of a radio station, songs from the past would continually bubble back to the surface, and the shelf life of everybody's songs would improve.
If it was set up to allow the listener to pick a genre or an artist or other criterion for selecting the play list, that would put it in a league with the other big music streaming sites. You might even be able to sell advertising to help pay for the bandwidth!
And with a little promotion on our facebook pages I can easily see the radio station becoming something that people all over the world might start listening to. That kind of exposure could drive people to your sites to buy your music, as well as driving new customers to PGMusic's site.
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It is a good idea. As others have indicated I think most listeners would prefer to be able to select the music genre. I'm fine with advertiser supported radio.
I have two questions for discussion. How deep into the User Showcase vault will you go? Do we want current listeners to hear the BiaB sounds from 2010, 2000, etc. Do all UserShowcase songs receive airplay? Using my contributions as examples, I would be honored for "Down In The Valley" to receive airplay as I consider it to be both representative of what I want to do and the best I can do right now. On the other hand, "Fun With Loops", is an exercise.
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Hi Peter, We definitely agree that this is a great idea! It's hard enough as it is to get airplay for one's compositions in general. As far as Jim's "How deep into the User Showcase vault will you go?" remark is concerned, we would suggest, that every user contributes only his/her/their best 5...10.. etc songs. This way quality is probably maintained best, while at the same time the database will be kept to a 'doable' size. We think that the average visitor won't be listening for a very long time. Therefore songs should not be too long, to keep the listener's attention. It's not uncommon for people, we found, to only listen to the first verse and chorus  Yes, we do think it's a good idea to create several channels, each with their own style. Regards, Rob and Anne-Marie
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Great idea. There's a free streaming site http://myradiostream.com/ that might also be worth checking out as an alternative. Josie
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Hi Peter, We definitely agree that this is a great idea! It's hard enough as it is to get airplay for one's compositions in general. As far as Jim's "How deep into the User Showcase vault will you go?" remark is concerned, we would suggest, that every user contributes only his/her/their best 5...10.. etc songs. This way quality is probably maintained best, while at the same time the database will be kept to a 'doable' size. We think that the average visitor won't be listening for a very long time. Therefore songs should not be too long, to keep the listener's attention. It's not uncommon for people, we found, to only listen to the first verse and chorus Yes, we do think it's a good idea to create several channels, each with their own style. Regards, Rob and Anne-Marie +1 from me, Peter Thanks for staying involved with this lovely community ☺ Fred
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Hi Peter,
great idea. I'm with it no matter where it goes.
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Another idea: Why not use a webjukebox? Free radiostations/websites will probably ask you to subscribe. These kind of sites also have a tendency to generate banners, pop ups etc. The alternative is to create a webjukebox on your website. This way you can control things by yourself: amount of mp3s, sequence, file format etc. Recently we've created a jukebox on our website. We used the program Coffeecup Webjukebox. It's nothing fancy but it works rather well. The interface is pretty straightforward and easy in use. You can choose from several skins. The program and its visuals is probably way too simple for PGM  , but it's just to give you an idea: RnAM Jukebox We're looking forward to the final concept! Rob and Anne-Marie
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Dr Gannon,
You, sir, have a very fertile mind! (reader discernment advised).
Please count me in.
I listen to music in the background 18 hours daily. It would be awesome to have a station dedicated to the music of my PG Music friends worldwide.
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Another idea: Recently we've created a jukebox on our website. We used the program Coffeecup Webjukebox. It's nothing fancy but it works rather well. The interface is pretty straightforward and easy in use. You can choose from several skins. RnAM Jukebox Rob and Anne-Marie Hey R or AM... The web site for CoffeeCup http://www.coffeecup.com/web-jukebox/shows settings that allow SHUFFLE - but there does not appear to be a Shuffle Button on your jukebox. Is that a global settings - set when you create it? Also... when you add songs, can you add a URL (for example, could you add a song on my site to your list?) or is it just songs from you computer? Do the songs have to all be uploaded to a specific place?
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great idea, mr gannon!
…and for every christmas a "pg label" could release 12 highlights from the user showcase radio for itunes, spotify and other streaming services ;-)
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