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Originally Posted By: Tony Wright

I am using an external synth so latency is zero but it doesn't help to go up and up to 1000.


Hi Tony,

I overlooked this detail before, and am curious if this means that you are not using a DXi synth. If you go to Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup, and "Use VSTi/DXi Synth" is not checked, then that means your MIDI latency setting and audio latency setting are independent of each other. Most people are using a DXi synth (it is the default setting), and that synchronizes both latency settings.

It is the audio latency setting that would need to be increased in order to avoid audio glitches/stuttering, so the MIDI latency setting by itself would not effect that. If you are not using a DXi synth for MIDI output, then you should definitely check what the audio latency setting is. You can see this by going to Options > Preferences > Audio > "Audio Latency in mS".


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Here is an observation on my system: I don't know that I would call this stuttering, but sporadically I would get a burst of distortion (less than a second) on various songs, usually within the first chorus, but not at the same bar. And, it would only occur once within a play session. Didn't seem to matter whether there were all RealTracks, all MIDI, a mix of both, and whether all, some, or none of the tracks were frozen. This happened with BBW 2013 and BBW 2016 and only in the last 6 months (I did not upgrade to 2014 or 2015). This burst of distortion did not occur in any other audio type applications (SONAR, Windows Media Player, etc. I pretty much dismissed it as a non-BBW related issue, but a week ago I changed the default synth in Options/Midi/Audio Driver Setup... from Coyote to TTS-1. The distortion burst has not resurfaced. The version of the Coyote DLL is ‎1.0.0.1 March ‎26, ‎2011. A quick note about Coyote in BBW 2016. In the options/midi... menu, Coyote Forte and Coyote Wave Table are both listed, however there is only one Coyote instance installed. One can select either. I will switch back to Coyote (Forte and WT) and test further to see if the issue reappears.

Additional Info: I should have mentioned I am running BBW on a local drive, OS=Win 7 Home Premium, Intel I7.

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))) I will switch back to Coyote (Forte and WT) and test further to see if the issue reappears.

Thanks Richard. Much appreciated.


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Originally Posted By: Tony Wright

I am using an external synth so latency is zero but it doesn't help to go up and up to 1000.


Hi Tony,

I overlooked this detail before, and am curious if this means that you are not using a DXi synth. If you go to Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup, and "Use VSTi/DXi Synth" is not checked, then that means your MIDI latency setting and audio latency setting are independent of each other. Most people are using a DXi synth (it is the default setting), and that synchronizes both latency settings.

It is the audio latency setting that would need to be increased in order to avoid audio glitches/stuttering, so the MIDI latency setting by itself would not effect that. If you are not using a DXi synth for MIDI output, then you should definitely check what the audio latency setting is. You can see this by going to Options > Preferences > Audio > "Audio Latency in mS".


Hi Blake

Thanks for your succinct explanation of the relationship between MIDI and audio latency. I am not using VSTi/DXi but my stuttering seems to have been solved by a complete install of a new 2016 download plus build 430. I have also discovered that, on my computer, I need a minimum of 200 latency in the MME/Audio Latency box to keep the problem at bay.

Since the problem is intermittent I have devised a way of testing to see how much latency I need. Open a metronome window while a multi RT song is playing then grab the top of the window to move it around the screen. If you hear a slight stutter then you need more latency. The beauty of this test is that it works every time and you don't have to wait for the intermittent "page refresh" stutter to appear.

Tony

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