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#368474 - 10/03/16 07:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
I have gotten zero plays from it in the many months PGradio has promised that one only needs to post their appropriate Soundcloud tracks in the User Showcase.===I have only used Soundcloud, and have only posted in User Showcase.
Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected.
So it seems to me you may have read a bit too much into their information about this feature smirk

To be fair, though, I also have to admit this also rather looks like yet one more case where the team comes up with a 'nifty new feature', only to seemingly run out of steam with it as time passes. I, for example, haven't really noticed all that much renewing of tunes on these channels lately (I count myself lucky in that sense to have gotten in there early on, while they were still enthusiastic about it).
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#368479 - 10/03/16 07:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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I'm not expecting anyone to promote my music, but myunderstanding is that there should be random plays according to category. Correct me if I'm wrong about that, but one would expect that if people are selecting a category and "letting it rip", randomly you should get plays**. If on the other hand there is an algorithm that favors the popular, I could see why something could sit at the bottom forever and never get played. Perhaps that is how it works and is what people here are trying to tell me.

**unless one has only an extremely obscure category. However, I read somewhere earlier in the thread someone had written that it is Soundcloud who actually categorizes stuff, regardless of what tags the user puts in. So, the obscure category thing isn't going to happen, anyway.

Honestly I'm looking at this more as a puzzle than anything. It's true I don't promote my music very much, and for good reason. smile


Edited by DIOECHOOTO (10/03/16 07:33 PM)
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#368481 - 10/03/16 07:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Icelander]
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"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes. Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s). If you mean selected by the user, then the question defaults to what I have already said about random hits.
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#368482 - 10/03/16 07:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes. Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s). If you mean selected by the user, then the question defaults to what I have already said about random hits.

You tend to lend credence to the adage: "No good deed goes unpunished!"

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#368485 - 10/03/16 08:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Don Gaynor]
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"You tend to lend credence to the adage: "No good deed goes unpunished!""

Um, no that's not me doing that, that's the Universe!

But seriously, Don, what are you trying to say? I don't have a bad attitude about this in the least. My reporting my experience is pretty level and factual in tone. And I'm not sure how the quote you bring up, namely my response to Icelander, fits in to the adage. Who am I "punishing", in your mind? I can't see where anything I reported or remarked even rises to the level of a mild criticism, let alone a bad attitude. My apologies if I have completely misunderstood your remark...but I really don't think I have. You are saying, it seems clear, that PGMusic did something nice that it didn't have to and here I am whining about it and show little appreciation for it. I'd suggest that that is not only reading a whole lot into my sparse remarks, but is a biased view in itself. Because, I have a right to value or not value the "extra", especially if I express myself in a respectful and reasonable way about it. Please show me where I haven't if you disagree.


Edited by DIOECHOOTO (10/03/16 08:49 PM)
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#368502 - 10/04/16 01:04 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Eric,

I might be missing something but I just followed a song you posted in Users Showcase to Soundcloud, (link)"Your Boring Happiness", and on Soundcloud...



...it shows that your composition has had 60 plays; it also has 3 likes (see highlighted area on the image above).

I wonder if there is some setting on Soundcloud somewhere that you might not have activated that stops you from seeing this.

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#368511 - 10/04/16 04:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks for looking into it, Noel!
I do (and did) indeed see that the song has been played and liked, but (and as always I could be wrong**) I think each of those plays happened for one of two reasons, neither of which can be attributed to PGRadio play: 1) I had recently submitted the song to the User Showcase and so it was still on the first page or two and people were checking it out. 2) My own promotion, sharing with friends on Facebook.

**especially since I am not a premiere user (or whatever Soundcloud calls their $$ upgrade) and have no access to metrics. However, I will say this, I did keep track.

So, with the possibility of human error (mine) notwithstanding...
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#368530 - 10/04/16 07:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes.
Bingo! smile
Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s).
And in there lies the "reading too much into it" bit, they don't.
Hope that clears things up a bit for you cool
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#368536 - 10/04/16 08:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Icelander]
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Quote:
And in there lies the "reading too much into it" bit, they don't.
Hope that clears things up a bit for you


Yes, absolutely clear now...thanks!
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#368554 - 10/04/16 09:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
Yes, absolutely clear now...thanks!
Very good cool
It still might be prudent to stress a few things:

The term "radio" is possibly giving users somewhat the wrong impression of what this feature actually is, or how it actually functions. The important thing to note here is that each of the 'channels' on this thing is essentially a playlist, with all its elements working exactly the same way as any playlist you may for instance have on your local/personal media player - and thus it does not behave like your 'normal' radio popularity charter, as you might perhaps expect/assume from the usage of the word "radio".
This also means that the order (and indeed the number) of these tracks on each of these playlist is fixed and does not change depending on for instance how often your track is being played by subscribers to the channel. The only way it might change is if the creators of these playlists decides to go in and manually do so by hand.
So for those of you who want to keep track of just how much exposure your track is getting, your best bet is to look at the SC statistics for your track, specifically the number of plays section.
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#369369 - 10/10/16 04:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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SC defines a play as simply hitting the play button which should cause any member to view their totals with some skepticism. Two bars in and somebody doesn't like the tune and exits -- yet that constitutes a play. With YouTube you can track how long they stayed with the track. That's the reason we create lyric videos for YouTube.

As Icelander mention the stats offer some insight. With an upper tier SC account you can look at the number of "plays" by member, by geographic area and other variables which can help give you some idea of the popularity of your track...as can the comments, number of likes and additions to other playlists.

We've found that when PG Music features one of our tracks as a "Hot Topic" the plays always Increase... a lot.
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#373319 - 11/06/16 09:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is coming... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Kemmrich]
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Well if Kevin's in ...

Here's a playlist ...https://soundcloud.com/user-334840828/sets/marc-glinert-originals

and if you need the original song addresses they are here :

soundcloud.com/user-334840828/better-of-me
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/second-thoughts
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/no-second-chance
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/emergenza
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/dont-get-caught
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/the-right-one
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/2480-days
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/olympic-dream
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/ribbon-of-black
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/rock-it-the-hard-way
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/pulse
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/losers-celebration
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/brightest-light
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/writing-pop-songs
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/buy-buy-buy
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/journeys-end


"Title and background information about the song."
included on my SoundCloud/SoundClick pages

"Indicate which tracks were recorded by you, and which tracks were generated by Band-in-a-Box or RealBand."
pretty much everything recorded by me, but Band-in-a-Box used as an invaluable composition tool. PTPA used as my main DAW software.

"If Band-in-a-Box or RealBand have been used, please provide information as to which styles or RealTracks were used. (tip: In Band-in-a-Box, the Song Memo contains the names of the RealTracks used, and you can copy/paste from that.)
List other programs used in the production (Sonar, Cubase etc.)"
As regards the PG Music software, no real audio - only MIDI / Audacity


Edited by mglinert (11/07/16 12:21 AM)
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#378877 - 12/01/16 01:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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#418678 - 06/21/17 02:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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