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#135215 - 11/25/11 01:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Harmonize and Generate Parts
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I would really like to see a one-click method, where you could select a harmony, distribute them to say, Trumpet, Tenor, Baritone and Trombone (bass or treble clef choice)and have BIAB spit out the parts pre-transposed. Most of the logic is in there, but requires a lot of manual steps that could be orchestrated. Also nice would be a setting to choose to harmonize, for example only melody notes >= a quarter, half or whole. While I'm at it, it would be nice if the lower parts could optionally continue "drop notes" to match the harmony while the top part holds the melody.

Oh, and by the way, by the next release is a perfect timeframe ..


Edited by PhillyJazz (11/25/11 01:33 PM)
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#135216 - 11/26/11 02:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Harmonize and Generate Parts [Re: PhillyJazz]
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You could always go to Sibelius 7. I heard it did that much and more. Auto arrangements, print outs in the right keys, as in print out parts for a brass ensemble, full band etc.

That's what I heard.

I have not yet taken the plunge, but am on the diving board so to speak.
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#135217 - 11/27/11 08:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Harmonize and Generate Parts [Re: John Conley]
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Both Sibelius and Finale have that kind of functionality. There is a steep learning curve though. If I wrote brass ensembles, I would absolutely go there, but the kind of music I play means lead sheets for all the horns (with chords) and I can get this output perfectly from BIAB already. Finale already uses BIAB harmonies as a plugin. I am thinking this is so common (even without the harmonization) that since the code already exists in the product, it is more or less wrapping a GUI around a script.

You can download demos of Sibelius and Finale. I think Sibelius is more intuitive. For all the users who think BIAB has "feature bloat" they should try one of these. I suppose if I were arranging movie scores or large ensembles, I would NEED one.


Edited by PhillyJazz (11/27/11 08:09 AM)

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#135218 - 11/27/11 10:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Harmonize and Generate Parts [Re: PhillyJazz]
alan S. Offline
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So am I right in thinking that the existing melody harmony options in BIAB (including the one click presets) are not giving you what you want?. If memory serves I'm pretty certain that you can export each line of the harmonies to separate channels in a midi file. And the option of only harmonizing melody notes of a certain duration is already under the 'more ' tab in the melody harmony editor. It's just that its expressed in units of milliseconds rather than note values.

Regards

Alan


Edited by alan S. (11/27/11 10:50 AM)

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#135219 - 11/28/11 06:16 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Harmonize and Generate Parts [Re: alan S.]
PhillyJazz Offline
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Actually, you don't need to save them out as MIDI files. When you swap the harmony to the melody track permanently, you can view the parts individually and transpose them before printing. I am thinking because it is a common function, and the code exists, that it could be reduced to a "one-click" procedure where your favorite instrumentation is maintained. I will check in to the duration option in harmonies. I guess the millisecond conversion will work after getting used to it.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Windows - Build 467 Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Windows customers can install the latest patch update (Build 467) here.

Added: Several requested 'genre' user categories in the StylePicker.
Changed: "Tempo/Pitch Stretching Quality" now defaults to medium instead of low.
Fixed: "No Loop (WAV) chosen for this track" would display for some tracks in the Create Multi-Drums dialog.
Fixed: An "out of memory" error would occur in very long songs with lots of RealTracks. Some tracks would be silent when this happened. This might still happen, but the song size limit has doubled.
Fixed: Booting up Band-in-a-Box by double-clicking on a song file would cause any song-based RealTracks to be removed.
Fixed: Drag and drop would not extract the selected region on the chord sheet.
Fixed: If there were any style changes in a song, the Bar Settings layer would display "Style changes" on any bar that had any other type of changes (eg tempo, volume).
Fixed: Sometimes RealTracks would play a dominant 7th chord for plain major triad song chords.
Fixed: The Event List editor window would only work for the Melody or Soloist tracks.
Improved: Elastique has been updated from version 3.1.8 to 3.1.11.

RealTracks Patch Update Available!

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This patch includes RealTracks and MIDI SuperTracks updates we have made since the previous March 22 patch. The files updated are largely those that were released with Band-in-a-Box® 2017, although there are updates to some earlier ones as well.

Summary of changes:
Added: Guitar, Nylon, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 now has complete transcriptions Added and can be viewed in the notation or lead sheet window.
Fixed: _BHALSA (Waltz) Style was not set to ¾ time, and now uses a more appropriate Bass
Fixed: _BLUESKY.STY mistakenly had drums in style.
Fixed: _CASUALE Style mistakenly included MIDI Guitar and Strings tracks.
Fixed: _RAMPART Style Demo mistakenly had the Master Volume turned way up.
Fixed: =JOLEO_B did not allow user volume changes
Fixed: Bass, Electric, RockPickedA-B Ev 165 and RT 2589 Bass, Electric, PunkFuzzPickedA-B Ev 165 had timing issues with some of the riffs.
Fixed: Charango, Rhythm AndesHuayno Ev16 085 was not playing sus chords.
Fixed: Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRock16thsJon Ev16 090 and RT2605 Guitar, Electric, Soloist JazzRockShuffleJon Sw 130 now have Hi-Q transcriptions. Now when the tablature or notation is viewed it will be more accurate and include bends, slides and other improvements.
Fixed: Loop file 'Trance - kit3beat135b ev16 tempo' was missing.
Fixed: NashvilleBrushesEasyBluegrass had the wrong audition demos.
Fixed: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm TrainBeatMike12-key Ev 16 090 was playing some slash chords.
Fixed: RealTracks Audition files for "Roadhouse" Resonator Guitar were mixed up.
Fixed: Some direct input files were mislabeled for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Rhythm NewOrleansMardiGras Ev16 085'.
Fixed: Some direct input files were missing for the RealTracks style 'Guitar, Electric, Soloist GypsyClassicQuinn Sw 220'.
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Fixed: The notation subdivision for the RealStyle _ASTRAL.STY was previously incorrect, and has been Fixed.
Fixed: The RealTrack that use Shots and Holds 345 were playing some incorrect chords
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Improved: More than 20 RealTracks now have Transcriptions enabled and the Simple option available.
Improved: Pianohld.sty has been improved, with better voice leading for the held piano.

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac - Build 180 Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac customers can install the latest patch update (Build 180) here.

Added: Several requested 'genre' user categories in the StylePicker.
Added: Web links have been added to the Help menu.
Changed: "Tempo/Pitch Stretching Quality" now defaults to medium instead of low.
Fixed: "Save all tracks as M4A file..." was missing from the Master context menu.
Fixed: Drag and drop would fail if the song title contained a period (eg "Up with the Trees - BGRock.Sty Demo").
Fixed: Drag and drop would fail if the song title contained invalid file name characters (eg slashes).
Fixed: For localized versions, the long style name would be wrong on the main screen.
Fixed: If a flash message was showing, copy/cut/paste commands would not work in dialogs.
Fixed: If there were any style changes in a song, the Bar Settings layer would display "Style changes" on any bar that had any other type of changes (eg tempo, volume).
Fixed: New lines for sections on the chord sheet was not allowed when the song had repeats.
Fixed: Some hints in the Chord Builder were not showing transposed notes, and a % symbol was showing instead.
Fixed: Sometimes RealTracks would play a dominant 7th chord for plain major triad song chords.
Fixed: The Chord Builder would not update to the current bar/beat when re-opening the window.
Fixed: The Play-Loop button (in normal screen mode) was not displaying a check mark.
Fixed: The Play-Loop popup menu was all blank.
Fixed: The popup menus in the Chord Builder were not showing any chord descriptions.
Fixed: The right arrow key would not work in the chord sheet during playback if "MIDI Keyboard Wizard Enabled" was enabled.
Improved: Elastique has been updated from version 3.1.8 to 3.1.11.
Updated: Activation dialog has been improved.

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 French Mac Version Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2017 apporte quelques 80 nouvelles fonctions tout à fait excitantes! L'écran principal a été redessiné avec une empreinte plus petite, une barre d'outils configurable, un interface avec onglets, une barre de progression, et plus… Les RealTracks sonnent mieux que jamais avec une qualité améliorée de stretching et transposition (Elastique 3), de meilleures transitions dans les phrases et des arrangements naturels. Une nouvelle fonction apprentissage "Woodshedding" appelée RealTracks 12-clés Guitare de Brent Mason jouée dans les 12 tonalités avec une Notation/Tablature précise (Hi-Q)s idéale pour l'étude et l'apprentissage. La Notation Guitare Tab été améliorée avec l'affichage graphique des bends, hammer-ons, pull-offs et slides. Un nouveau synthétiseur sforzando SFZ est désormais inclus. La Notation est améliorée avec une saisie de notation rapide pour guitare et piano et la disponibilité d'une grande Chrono. Et bien d'autres !

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La schermata principale è stata ridisegnata per occupare meno spazio, le barre degli strumenti sono ora configurabili dall'utente, c'è un'interfaccia a schede, una barra di avanzamento, e altro ancora. I RealTracks suonano meglio che mai con allungamento e trasposizione di migliore qualità (Elastique 3), migliori frasi di passaggio, e modalità naturali. Miglioramenti del Looping per il "Woodshedding" - il comando "L" per le ripetizioni rapide, Auto-Ripetizioni Avanzate, e ripetizioni con il silenziamento automatico. Miglioramenti dello StylePicker con le categorie degli utenti, gli elenchi personalizzati, lo stile di riferimento per l'ordinamento, i memo personalizzati, e operazioni più veloci. E' stato incluso un nuovo Sintetizzatore Sforzando SFZ. La Notazione è migliorata con l'inserimento rapido della musica per chitarra e per pianoforte e una bella linea del tempo gialla. E tanto altro ancora!

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YouTube Find - The Prisoner's Dilemna #FlashbackFriday

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One of our customers used Band-in-a-Box to create some backing tracks for stop action videos illustrating two famous social dilemmas: The Prisoner's Dilemma and The Braess Paradox

Video - The Prisoner's Dilemma
Video - The Braess Paradox

Creative and informative!

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