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Just registered. First post. Hope I have this in the correct forum.
Considering buying Band in a Box. Have a few questions, some of which might seem strange but their answers will tell me a lot about if it can do what I want. Here's the first one.
Can a newbie user get BIB to do a reasonable approximation of Bernard "Pretty" Purdie drums i.e. something approaching the Purdie shuffle?
Thanks.
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Hi. I know who you mean, but I'm not familiar with this beat as a drummer would be. Is it possible for you to put up a short audio file of that sound somewhere on the Internet (like a free public Dropbox account), and put a link to it here? Is there a hit song with the specific sound?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWdp1sOxvAHere's the Bernard Purdie shuffle. I don't think any of BIAB's 12/8 styles are like this. Ray
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Hi. I know who you mean, but I'm not familiar with this beat as a drummer would be. Is it possible for you to put up a short audio file of that sound somewhere on the Internet (like a free public Dropbox account), and put a link to it here? Is there a hit song with the specific sound?
Here's a link to a youtube vid where he breaks it down really nicely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOWdp1sOxvABonham also does something similar on Led Zeppelin's "Fool in the Rain": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14GYov0EdyQAnd here's a great link with him working with Steely Dan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldtieSEyQM
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That was great fun! I recognize the sound better, now that it has been broken down so clearly.
I too think there is not a comparable sound in BIAB RealDrums, but I could be wrong.
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That was great fun! I recognize the sound better, now that it has been broken down so clearly.
I too think there is not a comparable sound in BIAB RealDrums, but I could be wrong. That surprises me. Purdie has played on a gazillion records by major artists. It's not like his style is unusual or obscure, or anything. Everybody has heard him (most likely without knowing it). I expected to receive an answer like "It can be done but you have to be more advanced than a newbie to make it happen" not "it's just not there".
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...I expected to receive an answer like "It can be done but you have to be more advanced than a newbie to make it happen" not "it's just not there". Llwellen, also welcome to the forums. Answers given here are honest and reflect end-users knowledge of the products. This page, from the company itself has many audio demos where you can select and listen to different drum styles. You should review yourself, but under "RealDrums Set 4: Rock, Pop and More! " there is a Pop128^ style. It's not Bernard, but it might work for you. I wouldn't be too put off unless you are considering purchasing only if it includes the Purdie Shuffle. There are many fantastic real drums by excellent artists (Craig Scott, Terry Clarke to name a few) included in the various packages.
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And Danny Gottlieb, with whom I've done a concert and a session. Amazing jazz drummer.
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"I wouldn't be too put off unless you are considering purchasing only if it includes the Purdie Shuffle. There are many fantastic real drums by excellent artists (Craig Scott, Terry Clarke to name a few) included in the various packages."
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No, I won't be put off by that alone. I asked that question as a way of trying to determine the level of detail that might be available in selecting drum parts - i.e does BIAB get down to that level.
That said, I'm still surprised that such a widely known, recorded and respected studio player as Purdie wasn't included in the palette. Maybe he declined the gig?
Thanks for the link and the info.
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You could also call PG Music Sales (Pacific time) and ask them. The number is at the bottom of their home page, here: http://www.pgmusic.com/index.html
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I asked that question as a way of trying to determine the level of detail that might be available in selecting drum parts - i.e does BIAB get down to that level.
That said, I'm still surprised that such a widely known, recorded and respected studio player as Purdie wasn't included in the palette. Maybe he declined the gig? Or maybe his price was too high? You can create anything you want with midi but for Real Drums, it's whatever the session calls for. I agree this would be a cool style for a RD project. Put it in the Wishlist. Bob
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