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I've noticed that BIAB likes to randomly generate parts based on chord progressions for RTs. While I'm ok with have doing that with my chord progression, I would like be able to have a way to save the generated background real track, so that when I go to play the entire song, I know the background track will fit the way I want it to. The way I could see this work, is what I would like to call the "Best of Real Tracks" option. So, they way this would work is that when you load a RT, say any background track, BIAB would give you three randomly generated tracks, and if you have the best of option on, you could listen to those three tracks and decide which one you like. BIAB would then render that choice as a separate .wav file that could either go into a special folder or somehow go into the folder where the file your BIAB session is in. Now, for those of you who prefer to go the extra mile and want to have an exact part written out they way you have it in your head, that's cool, but I'm thinking of this more for someone like me for really just wants a background part in the style rather than something to replicate a part.
P.S. Sometimes I do want to have certain parts played as it sounds in the song, meaning I do want to write the parts out myself, for more control.
Last edited by Islansoul; 07/29/16 04:48 AM.
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+1 Islansoul, Your description is very similiar to RealBand's multi-riff feature. Unfortunately you are using the Mac operating system and RealBand is not available on the Mac. I requested ++ RealBand for Mac HERE ++ and you supported the idea. There are several additional requests in the RealBand wishlist part of the forum so there seems to be support for a Mac version of RealBand.
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One thing to be aware of also is that when you generate two tracks of the same Realtrack, BIAB Windows recognizes this and generates tracks that are complimentary with each other and they are always different from each other. This is designed into BIAB Windows according to Peter Gannon in a thread reply some time back.
I'm not sure if is the same with the Mac version at this time but it would be easy to generate several tracks of the same Realtrack to see if it also works in MAC BIAB.
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You're right Charlie. The concept of complementary generations of tracks was introduced around four years ago (if I recall correctly, that is).
If two instances of the same realtrack are generated at the same time in BIAB, they will be different from one another for the entirety of the the tracks. This doesn't apply to tracks that are generated in different generations. While I don't know for sure, I imagine that this principle carries over into the Mac version.
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Generally this works pretty well but I have had situations with acoustic guitar RealTracks where two tracks using the same RealTrack generated several bars with no differences. I noticed this because in my final mix, even though the two tracks were panned, at some points rather than panning they simply increased in volume centered and played identical parts. In those cases you can either regenerate or try shifting the two tracks a tiny bit (10-20ms).
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Yes, this feature is called Same-but-Different
If you have 2 or more of the same Realtracks on different tracks, BiaB will automatically make them all different at all times.
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And the "Same-but-Different" concept was introduced into the Mac version in about 2011 onwards, just to clear that up.
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Yes, this feature is called Same-but-Different
If you have 2 or more of the same Realtracks on different tracks, BiaB will automatically make them all different at all times. Peter, I'm not talking about having 2 or more Realtracks on different tracks, I'm talking about different takes with the same track. Let's say I was to use 687: Harmonic,Background Pop Ev 165 (TJ Klay) track for a song I wanted to write. As of now, every time I wanted to generate that track to be played in BIAB, it would produce a different part. However, if I had the "Best of" option, when ever generated that track, up to three times, Band in a Box would save those takes. Then, in a little dialogue box,it to chose the take I find most appropriate. After selecting the one I wanted, BIAB would then create a .wav file within the season. This would allow me to know that that part would fit in with the song, and will be exactly what I hear when I go to render all the individual tracks to .wav files to mix later on. Now, I understand that all of people here are every dependent on MIDI, having a meticulous itch for detail, but I really like the quail of the audio that the RTs bring.
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