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#363952 09/05/16 01:03 AM
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Hi

After loading ultrapak, I have noticed that some real styles have midi drums.

is this the norm.

note....this is r not rm as I know rm is real and midi.

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Just to make sure:

Are there drums in the style or are there drums just displayed even though the style doesn't have drums included?


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Originally Posted By: colly
Hi

After loading ultrapak, I have noticed that some real styles have midi drums.

is this the norm.

note....this is r not rm as I know rm is real and midi.

Colly
Thanks for the request.

re: "note....this is r not rm as I know rm is real and midi."

There's no need to be cryptic among us. We're all friends. Please feel free to use full words in your sentences so that others can exactly understand your intentions and definitions more fully.

Which Real Styles have MIDI drums? Can you please give examples(s) so we can verify and give accurate responses.

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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
... re: "note....this is r not rm as I know rm is real and midi."...


He isn't that crytic, colly just forgot to mention that he refers to the column "Type" of the StylePicker.

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Yea that is what I was meaning with r and rm.

I pick a real style and it loads and plays midi drums,

Not all of them just some,was thinking maybye it is not loaded correctly.

I did download all of this.

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Oh, OK, perhaps I got lost with the lack of sentence casing r, rm etc, and the O/P was apparently referring to column headings of the Stylepicker which wasn't mentioned, oh, never mind.



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Hi

ACHARGS SLOW COUNTRY/ROCK...this is one of the styles.

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ACHARGS is shown in the StylePicker on my system as All RealTracks


_ACHARGS.STY. Slow Country/Folk (085 RS)
All RealTracks. Trio. Tempo=85 (70-105)
RT365: Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Ev 085 , Jason Roller
RT362: Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 085 , Tony King
RT626: Harmonica, Background Travis Ev 085 , TJ Klay
Memo: All RealTracks! This slow tempo Country/Folk Trio style is really brought to life by these RealTracks: acoustic guitar Fingerpicking and Strumming featuring Travis Background Harmonica.
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ACHARGS SLOW COUNTRY/ROCK...this is one of the styles.

It loads jazz midi drums...?

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Yea I thought that.

Do you have any idea what might be the cause of this.
It also loads a midi bass.

Thanks

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Originally Posted By: colly
ACHARGS SLOW COUNTRY/ROCK...this is one of the styles.

It loads jazz midi drums...?


Ahh haaa

Now the plot thickens! Yes it loads MIDI drums on my system also.

Needs reporting to PGM.

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I've reported it to Support, referencing this thread.

I'll let you know about any replies


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Thanks Videotrack

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Not on my system, that why I asked my first question: Is there a drum in the style?

Achargs plays neither drums nor bass on my system despite showing the midi instruments.

I've noticed years ago that often midi instruments are displayed but don't play in certain styles.


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As I understand it, the reason midi instruments are sometimes displayed is because a number of styles based on Realtracks are modified midi styles.

If the above is the case for a particular style, and a specific track is not used in creating the style, this track will show a default midi track. Such a track does not contribute to the sounds in the style, though.

If, on the other hand, a style's creation is not based on an existing style, and particular track is not used, this track's name will have white writing and no instrument will be present. (e.g ZZJAZOLD.SGU).


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A few others that load Midi Bass and Drums ACBLZ1.STY....ACFIDGS.STY....AFDG120.STY..._ALLI_GR.STY.

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a few more
_BAL2AB1.STY.
_BAL2AB2.STY
_BAL2TGS.STY...THESE all LOAD MIDI STRINGS.
_BAL2TSX.STY. Jazz Ballad Double Time midi strings

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The problem here is that RealStyles are based on underlying MIDI styles. I looked at it in the StykeMaker and those two instruments are defined, but there are no patterns associate with them so they don't actually play anything. They probably should have excluded those tracks from the style.

If you listen, you will hear neither drums not bass. PG Music should probably fix this.

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Originally Posted By: jford
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If you listen, you will hear brother drums not bass. PG Music should probably fix this.

Thanks John, could you clarify 'brother drums'?


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'brother drums'?

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