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The guitars sound good.
Your best mix of what I've heard. Thank you for listening Floyd. That is very encouraging. Joanne,
Beautiful.
This could almost be a tribute to Leonard Cohen because of the timing
A good way to start my day.
Alyn Alyn. Thanks. Yes so sad about Leonard Cohen. Although, I read his biography "Im your man" and he did well considering what he put his body through. I have spent the whole weekend listening to and playing all the songs of his that I loved and had forgotten about. The mix sounds darn good to me Joanne!
We all have different 'mix ears' and there are always multiple ways to mix a song, all good. Guitars sound perfect. My mix would probably have brought the vocals down a tad relative to the instruments and EQ'd a little off the 'top edge' of the lead vocal, making the tone a wee bit smoother. I'd have made the kick drum audible with a bit of 'thump' on its EQ. But we're now talking tiny details.
It's an all round beautiful song and sentiment. Loved it.
John
Hi John. Nice to hear from you again! I did post the song to the Slate digital Facebook page and Steven Slate himself commented and made the same observations and I did another mix. Here is the link to the Facebook post for anyone who is interested in what the professionals had to say.
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Really heartfelt both the writing and the performance and arrangement.
Everything sounds good to me and thanks for the tip on slate digital. I'm going to check them out.
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It all sounds excellent on our KRK's.
Nice!!
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Really heartfelt both the writing and the performance and arrangement.
Everything sounds good to me and thanks for the tip on slate digital. I'm going to check them out. Absolutely welcome Lawrence. For 14.99 per month it is a steal and you get all the new plugins as soon as they are released. Their recent verbsuit is worth the price alone. Let me know how it goes.
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It all sounds excellent on our KRK's.
Nice!! Thank you Bud and Janice
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Hello Joanne, your mix sounds wonderful. Excellent vocals and bg vocals. The panning on the guitars sounds great and good use of vocal effects. On top of all that it's just a great song. One thing I thought would fit nicely in this song would be some soft violin fills after the quiet spot in the middle (3rd verse on) but that's just me. Very good work!! Take care, Torrey.
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Joanne, The guitars and the overall mix sound good. Really nice vocal and a really good song. I think you are on the right track concerning your plug-ins and mix. Tom
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Joanne,
I think you've outdone yourself on this one and it's my new fav of yours.
The range and key of your voice in this song is right on your sweet spot.
Your vocal is outstanding and I love the arrangement.
The work and detail that went into putting this together shows.
Listening through my headphones I agreed with John and then saw where you said the Slate guy did too
but as John said that's in no way meant to say that this has any major flaws at all.
You've performed, arranged and mixed a beautiful production!
You and your co-writer should be very proud of it.
Josie
PS - I've never tried vocal to midi - you've inspired me to experiment with it.
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Hello Joanne, your mix sounds wonderful. Excellent vocals and bg vocals. The panning on the guitars sounds great and good use of vocal effects. On top of all that it's just a great song. One thing I thought would fit nicely in this song would be some soft violin fills after the quiet spot in the middle (3rd verse on) but that's just me. Very good work!! Take care, Torrey. Thanks so much Torrey. If I do another mix I will try that suggestion out. Joanne, The guitars and the overall mix sound good. Really nice vocal and a really good song. I think you are on the right track concerning your plug-ins and mix. Tom Thank you Tommy. This music, songwriting, recording and production thing definitely is a life long journey. Whenever I start with something new in my workflow the learning curve is huge. Sometimes I think "Why bother" and after the first few hours (days!) of struggling along I usually feel like giving up. I am still going through it with the ilok, my DAW (RealBand) and my computer! But this is something I will persevere with and am looking forward to getting through the bump. Then new "thing" will just become the old "thing". I am certainly enjoying the journey. Joanne,
I think you've outdone yourself on this one and it's my new fav of yours.
The range and key of your voice in this song is right on your sweet spot.
Your vocal is outstanding and I love the arrangement.
The work and detail that went into putting this together shows.
Listening through my headphones I agreed with John and then saw where you said the Slate guy did too
but as John said that's in no way meant to say that this has any major flaws at all.
You've performed, arranged and mixed a beautiful production!
You and your co-writer should be very proud of it.
Josie
PS - I've never tried vocal to midi - you've inspired me to experiment with it.
Josie, thank you! To get such positive feedback from you has made my day! Let me know how you go on the vocal to Midi thing and if you need any help please shout.
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You have such a strong true voice Joanne I didn't pay much attention to the instruments. Having said that, nothing sounded out of place to me.
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Hi Joanne... Your voice is so lovely and powerful it almost seems like it doesn't need accompaniment. But creating the music is the fun part for us, huh? I have some questions for you to better help you. -What are your pan settings for each track? -Are you using compression on anything? -What tracks have effects like reverb or delay? -Are you adding effects to you tracks during recording or after the fact? -Could you be a bit more precise about what track and EQ settings you're using. -Do you have any effects on the master track? EQ? Compression? -Are you recording at 24 bit and dithering, or 16 bit? -At what resolution are you rendering your output for MP3 -Or are you outputting to WAV? The one thing that I heard that I just couldn't live with is that finger squeak on the acoustic during the intro. I know those things happen, and when they are buried in the mix it actually adds realism to the track. But on an introduction it needs to be perfect or you (and everyone else) will be listening to it for the next 20 years every time you play the song  Get some Finger Ease or some type of neck spray and redo the intro until it's perfect in every way. I know this sounds picky, but recording is very clinical and you only have to get it right ONCE. A very touching song, BTW. And paired with you're vocals it's killer. Bob
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Hi Bob
Thanks very much for the offer. I appreciate it.
-What are your pan settings for each track?.
I generally pan tracks in twos, between 10 and 50 %
-Are you using compression on anything?
Yes all tracks are processed with Slate digital presets and these all have some level of compression.
-What tracks have effects like reverb or delay?
All of them have reverb except bass
-Are you adding effects to you tracks during recording or after the fact?
After the fact
-Could you be a bit more precise about what track and EQ settings you're using.
I generally use the PG EQ simply because it is easy and I know it. I generally do a high shelf on each track, listening for when the sound degrades and then pulling it back and then add a small boost in various frequencies (depending on the instrument) to make each instrument stand out.
-Do you have any effects on the master track? EQ? Compression?
yes. I use an Ozone preset. Country basic is the one I usually use.
-Are you recording at 24 bit and dithering, or 16 bit?
24 bit
-At what resolution are you rendering your output for MP3.
360
-Or are you outputting to WAV?
When I submit to iTunes I obviously use the wav. For uploading to Soundcloud I use the mp3 (360)
The one thing that I heard that I just couldn't live with is that finger squeak on the acoustic during the intro. I know those things happen, and when they are buried in the mix it actually adds realism to the track. But on an introduction it needs to be perfect or you (and everyone else) will be listening to it for the next 20 years every time you play the song grin
Get some Finger Ease or some type of neck spray and redo the intro until it's perfect in every way. I know this sounds picky, but recording is very clinical and you only have to get it right ONCE.
It is a realtrack so not going to be able to sort out the issue that way. Ha ha! I didnt notice it before but will relisten.
A very touching song, BTW. And paired with you're vocals it's killer.
Thanks Bob. Appreciate it. And any advice on the way I am going about this would be great (and I am sure educational to others following this thread)
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Hi Joanne,
I've posted an article in the MIXING Forum that might be helpful. I'll listen more to your project and see if there's anything I think will be helpful.
At for the the Real Track guitar "squeek" you could try to delete that tiny part of it and close the hole or select that little part and pull it down. If that track is EQ'd to the high side it is probably accentuating the flaw. I mean it's your intro, the first thing people hear, it should be as clean as possible.
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If we are talking about the squeak in the first 3 seconds or so, it didn't really register with me--and I am picky as all get out. It sounded pretty natural to me.
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