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#394416 - 02/05/17 05:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play
thomasc Offline
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Yes, sounds weird in two ways

With real style _DRVCBAL.STY and entering a couple of chords, the first play after a generation or even after a stop, the drummer gets choked, i.e. there is a stuttering moment in the replay of the audio and only at the first bar and third beat.
If the song is looped and restarts it's ok.
It does not seem to happen with the other tracks within the style, only the drums.

Selecting other real drums within this style normally works ok, but I found another one producing the same result, e.g. CountryPopEven16.

Appreciate if anyone could check if this is a general problem or if it's some kind of memory issue on my PC.

Running latest BIAB version & Win10 32bits


cheers Thomas

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#394453 - 02/05/17 08:33 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
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I created an 8 bar song using that style and couldn't repeat your issue. Try this and regenerate and see if it assists (Control-N for the Song Settings menu):


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#394492 - 02/05/17 10:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: VideoTrack]
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Thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately it didn't work.

Starting to wonder if it's tied to having all the real tracks on another hard disk and that this causes an initial delay for the first play, however for some reason not the 1st bar and the 1st beat.
I also got the same problem with a real bass track, not as pronounced as the drum track but basically the same issue.

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#394504 - 02/05/17 11:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
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Thomas,

I wonder if your antivirus software might be impacting on performance. Have you tried disabling it and then running BIAB to see if that might be causing it?

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#394554 - 02/05/17 03:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks Noel

I tried it, no luck.

Moved this real track drums to C:\ still the same problem.
Running the style with only midi tracks and the real drum track, no problem.

May need to move to other real tracks for the style to C:\ to see if it makes a difference.

So, most likely it seems to be some kind of performance problem.

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#394584 - 02/05/17 09:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
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What's your Geek Bench score?
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#394588 - 02/05/17 10:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
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Also...

What tempo is your song? I notice that this set of Realdrums has a recommended range of 60 - 120 beats per minute.
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#394628 - 02/06/17 07:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
jcland Offline
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A couple of questions for you.

1. How much memory do you have installed in your computer.
2. Verify that you are indeed running Windows 10 32BIT version as you stated in your post.

If you have a low amount of RAM installed and are running a 32BIT version of Windows, you might have a problem.

BIAB is still a 32 bit program but like all computers, the amount of RAM that you both have installed and the amount of RAM you have available after booting up the computer could drastically affect your performance.

Just something to check on.

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#394650 - 02/06/17 09:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
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I have noticed this issue as well.

I notice it when I have generated a song and then go in and edit something. When I start it, after it generates again, there is a glitch in one measure. It is repeatable, meaning, it happens at the same place in the song every time. I happens in various places, normally at the point of edit.

If I go to the top menu and select REGENERATE AND PLAY.... it will regen the song and the glitch is gone. The song will play flawlessly.

After an edit, I simply click on the Regen and play button.

edit: I believe this happens regardless of the style selected in my machine.

Next time I'm working I will take better notes and report back.... might be a few days.


Edited by Guitarhacker (02/06/17 09:15 AM)
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#394662 - 02/06/17 09:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: thomasc]
Mike Head Offline
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Yes I too have noticed this stutter but only sometimes
It has happened since upgrading to 2017.
Normally when it occurs is on first opening BIAB any style or song I think
I get a moment of silence in the first and third bars first time through if I rewind and start again all is fine.
Some times I can repeat this by loading another song sometimes not.

I put this down to Audio drop out at first and played with Asio buffer sizes but this did not help so I put it down to a busy PC so stopped all unnecessary background task
AV software etc to no avail. Strangely I have not noticed it for a couple of days so maybe 458 fixed it

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#394874 - 02/07/17 11:23 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Nashville Even 16 - Stutter at bar 1 beat 3 on first play [Re: Mike Head]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Head


It has happened since upgrading to 2017.


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Ditto. No nits until I installed the 2017 upgrade.

Perhaps PG should look into this issue and offer a fix.
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