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#401234 - 03/17/17 09:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 11:16:56 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,161 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 11:16:56 AM]

This is my office laptop, not the one I use onstage (described in my signature):
Windows 10, i7 5500u (2.40 GHz), 2 cores, HD
Geekbench 4 CPU score - single core = 3370, multi core = 6409
Geekbench 4 Compute score = 14,679


Much, much better loading time! Thanks!
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#401254 - 03/17/17 12:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Some years ago, I asked to get all values listed in BIAB according to the System International.
It is still strange for many people in many countries to see we have for example 5,451 styles in the style picker instead of 5 451 styles.
According to the selected language in BIAB, the values could be implemeneted in SI display.


And of course, I know that in Norway (and probably other countries as well), they use a comma instead of a period to represent the decimal point.

So, a restaurant bill in the United States for 17.26 would be 17,26 in Norway.
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#401272 - 03/17/17 02:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: John-Luke]
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Originally Posted By: John-Luke
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
5 (five) mS ???
in most of countries using the International Metrics system, like Italy or France, we should read for exemple 5 256 ms, while English countries will write 5,256ms. Taking the integer portion, that is the most significant value, we get 5, that is in fact 5 seconds and not 5 ms.

Yes, that's the case in my case, pun intended.

So yes, it's five seconds.

Still lightning fast... wink
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#401317 - 03/17/17 05:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Running Windows Notepad.exe to display file C:\bb\Data\FlashMessageLog.txt [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:56 PM]
- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:51 PM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =1,433 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:51 PM]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =231. Plugins counted=45 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:50 PM]

Thank you Peter!

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#401373 - 03/18/17 05:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Well, I didn't put a stop watch to it or copy those file numbers out.... heck I couldn't find them.... but there is a huge difference in the start time from "click" to "ready to roll".

Something in the vicinity of maybe 2 seconds. Since I'm rarely in a rush, that's good for me. I was used to seeing start times of around 15 to 20 seconds. Never really thought about it before.... it needed to do all the stuff to get ready, including loading the synth, and whatever else it needed to do. Fix it's hair and makeup... heck I don't know. 2 seconds is good. Now, I need to take a swallow of my coffee BEFORE I click start on BB. Previously I could do that while it was booting up... not now.


Edited by Guitarhacker (03/18/17 05:50 AM)
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#401522 - 03/19/17 07:45 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =3,019 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]

Well no record breaker here, considering this old Dell i7 used to be a powerhouse back in the day, but otherwise, pretty nice.
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#401541 - 03/19/17 08:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:48 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,462 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:48 AM]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =214. Plugins counted=25 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:19:47 AM]

Phenom Tri-core, much quicker now.
Thanks
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#401560 - 03/19/17 09:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =3,019 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 9:40:38 AM]

Well no record breaker here, considering this old Dell i7 used to be a powerhouse back in the day, but otherwise, pretty nice.


Shut down, went to lunch and when I started again, felt like I had to wait forever.... grin

- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:51:55 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =9,596 [2017.461.1, 3/19/2017 11:51:55 AM]
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#401563 - 03/19/17 10:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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What'd you have for lunch that slowed you down so much?
<ducking>

Was there anything below that in the log file? Sometimes (historically) I've seen 'stylepicker rebuild' messages and other stuff that explained the time..
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#401585 - 03/19/17 12:35 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Just for the record, it was an extra 6 sec. to *count plugins" which it did not record on the first loading.
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#401606 - 03/19/17 03:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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So you're back down to 3 or so?
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#401611 - 03/19/17 03:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: rharv]
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I find that the first start is slower than subsequent restarts (for the same computer session). Presumably as a result of some caching by the O/S
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#401636 - 03/19/17 05:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Yep in Win 7 I'm getting the above typical ~2 sec's (aka 2072 +/- ms) - I'll try Win 10 later on this machine, specs below.

Not sure what numbers were prior to update (I deleted the .txt file)

The interesting case is, like Matt and a few others, my 2006 Core 2 Duo (2 Gz Intel T7200 chip), Dell Latitude D820, max 4GB RAM, with it's third and final "fast" PATA/IDE 750GB HDD upgrade, running Win XP. [Not worth hassle of finding a PATA/IDE to SATA interface, that will FIT in the space allowed. Besides I have a new i7 Win 10 Pro laptop that DOES have SDD's showing up later this week]

Before 461 update, on the D820, the x-bar was ~17.4 secs (pointless to say 17,400 ms but I guess I just did), after update it was ~5.8 sec's (ok 5,883 ms) so right at 3X faster.

Note, in both cases, I'm losing the same ~1 sec (1,036 ms) to plugins counting; therefore, plugin counting impact on boot time is more significant AFTER update than before by a factor of 3 - LOL

Great work guys!
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#401640 - 03/19/17 06:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Wow.....that is fantastic, Doctor. Mine rebooted in negative time, like yesterday!
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#401641 - 03/19/17 07:04 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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My first one of the day (after a restart of my computer) was 11,664 milliseconds. My next two were 3,475 approximately. Is Band in a Box using memory to keep itself ready for a fast start?
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