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Hi all -

Just bought the basic BIAB Pro 2017 package and I am really enjoying it so far. Using immediately to create backing/practice tracks, and expect to use it in future for composition work.

I know I will have lots of questions for the forum in the future (e.g., I'm struggling with getting the software to make style changes when I want it to), but for right now I have a simpler question. I just received an offer from PG Music to upgrade to the UltraPlusPAK at a reduced price. So I'd like to hear from others who have used BIAB for a while. Do you get along with the basic package, or have you found that getting the full menu of Styles and Realtracks is worth the $199 PG Music is asking for the upgrade?

Thanks for your input.

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Hi.

Welcome to the forums.

I've just had a look at PG Music's prices and I see that the ProPak deal is US$129 and the UltraPlusPak is US$469. The difference between these is US$340 (if my math is correct).

Given the above, the deal to change over is GREAT value!!! Definitely take it.

The UltraPlusPak is by far the most popularly used package on these users' forums. It is also the deal that most us recommend time and time again to new users.

As you are finding out, BIAB is incredible software. The UltraPlusPak is the first package that contains everything PG Music produce with styles, Realtracks, Realdrums, etc.

The summary numbers (for each package) on the below image speak for themselves. The number of Realtracks (200 for Pro and 2,200 for UltraPlusPak) would be enough to sell me on the upgrade!

If you want to listen to some songs created with the UltraPlusPak, go to the Soundcloud link in my signature. Also, jump over to the Users Showcase and have a listen to many writers there.

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Also...

If you are after some quick replies to your post, it would be better to post in the Off Topic forum.

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=4&page=1

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If they're offer is good for a month or so you could continue with what you have for a while then decide later.
But, I agree. Go with the Ultra-Plus pack. After all it is "Ultra" and "Plus". I mean, how can anything be better than that unless it was Super Ultra and Super Plus.
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I think you will enjoy the additional styles in the UltraPlus Pack. The more styles the better.


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I started with a basic version and added the packs I needed, but soon found myself upgrading and before long I was at the top.

My suggestion is to go for the Everything Pack. That give you everything they have.


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As others stated, the UltraPlus Pak is the lowest price package that offers all the styles, RealTracks and other musical add-on products PG Music sells. Many users become frustrated when, not if, they want to implement a song idea and do not have an add-on needed to produce the idea. Having all those tools on hand so you don't have to worry about encountering needing an add-on is a great feeling and can minimize that frustration. Conversely some users become frustrated with having too many add-on products to choose from until they gain some familiarity with them. The forum frequently sees the question what style or RealTrack works best with such and such song.

The Band-in-a-Box and RealBand (Windows only) programs have a lot of useful features worth taking the time to explore. It's easy to get caught up trying out add-on styles and RealTracks and never getting around to really investigating features you may find extremely useful.

A good way to learn much of what Band-in-a-Box can do is to get Goove3.com's +++ Band-in-a-Box for Windows +++ or
+++ Band-in-a-Box for Mac +++ video tutorials. They provide a solid foundation to learning the program capabilities and are great refresher or reference tools.

PG Music tends to add a bunch of new program features, refinements and add-on products each year. Learn the programs as best you can now and you might have an easier time learning and using new features and refinements later because you'll have a solid foundation to start from.

While having the UltraPlus Pak or higher package is likely the goal many users hope to achieve, you can't go wrong if you become intimately familiar with what you have. Over the long term knowledge reigns supreme.


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