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#416054 - 05/31/17 09:18 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade.
AlastairLC Offline
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Apple is sending me messages that the latest IOS upgrade will not support BIAB for iPad. I have informed PG Music of this but have received no satisfactory response.
If this is true then my upcoming gigs are in jeapody. I don't understand PG Music's lack of response and resolution.
They should support all their products.
It would also be a good time to make the fixes and improvements I have been recommending in my posts for over a year.
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#416111 - 06/01/17 10:18 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
Andrew - PG Music Offline
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Yes, we have learned about that issue. Good thing they're notifying people a few months ahead of time!
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#416142 - 06/01/17 03:44 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Actually, Apple is asking me to upgrade my iPad IOS now! So time has run out.
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#416161 - 06/01/17 06:50 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Do I understand this right:

Apple is doing something that BREAKS BIAB on iOS devices and making you update the OS that "breaks" BIAB, and its PG’s fault, or PG is supposed to “stop the presses” until they fix what APPLE broke?

I feel your pain but come on

Larry


Edited by Larry Kehl (06/01/17 06:51 PM)
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#416163 - 06/01/17 07:08 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
AlastairLC Offline
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Apple didn't break anything. They're jjust doing one of their regular IOS upgrades. They are warning us that BIAB will not be compatible when they do that and therefore PG Music needs to being it into compliance.
Until that happens I can't do the IOS upgrade without potentially losing BIAB.
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#416176 - 06/01/17 09:48 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Right, a large number of apps (and older devices too I think) will be incompatible with iOS 11 unless the developers update them, so that's what the warning is about. It seems like a beta iOS 11 might be available soon, but the official version won't arrive until late in the year as far as I understand.


Edited by Andrew - PG Music (06/01/17 09:52 PM)
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#416195 - 06/02/17 04:16 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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Apple is constantly updating their OS's that screws so many software developers. You see it all the time when downloading Mac software "Not working on OS X XXXX, we are currently working on a new Beta version" then they get it working then Apple screws them again by changing things in yet another OS update.
Then you go to run a download app " Sorry XXX needs 10.9.2 to run you are using 10.9.1"
Then you update to 10.9.2 then you find other apps don't work anymore.

Windows, just always works.


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#416218 - 06/02/17 06:46 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Andrew, are you saying that BIAB won't be compatible (until changed) with IOS 11, due this fall, but it is compatible with the IOS upgrade that Apple wants me to do now?
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#416223 - 06/02/17 07:56 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Originally Posted By: AlastairLC
Andrew, are you saying that BIAB won't be compatible (until changed) with IOS 11, due this fall, but it is compatible with the IOS upgrade that Apple wants me to do now?


That sounds right. Well what are the details of the upgrade, and what iOS version do you actually have?
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#416227 - 06/02/17 08:19 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
AlastairLC Offline
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Thanks Andrew. I have version 10.3.1 (14E304) and they want me to upgrade to 10.3.2. Is it safe for me to do that?
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#416259 - 06/02/17 01:00 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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I installed iOS 10.3.2 and it didn't seem cause any problems with Band-in-a-Box or other apps in my testing.

But I should also mention also that I have not personally seen this warning message, I've only seen references to it on various blogs and news sites. I have no idea why it doesn't appear on my device. Also I can't at the moment find any information directly from Apple about this, either in the Apple Developer area or in fact anywhere on Apple's website. I am likely overlooking something. Either way, we will look into it.
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#416847 - 06/07/17 12:21 PM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
AlastairLC Offline
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Thanks Andrew. I waited to get through some recent gigs, then upgraded to 10.3.2 as well. Like you, I found that BIAB ran ok. Phew!
I hope that PG Music will soon make sure to bring BIAB into compliance with the future iOS upgrade that it's not supposed to run on.
That would be an excellent time to make the fixes and improvements I have recommended in my wishlist posts for over a year.
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#416916 - 06/08/17 01:59 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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#416961 - 06/08/17 10:03 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
Andrew - PG Music Offline
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Hi Alastair,

So, the Band-in-a-Box apps are already 64bit, and I'm wondering if maybe you have an older version installed. At one point there was an iPad-specific app, which was later replaced with a single app that's for both iPhone and iPad. The older one I believe had "iPad" written on the icon. Perhaps you could try downloading the current one? Then again, if your setup is working well for you right now...
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#416967 - 06/08/17 10:28 AM [Other PG Music Programs] Re: Warning! BIAB for iPad/iPhone not compatible with IOS upgrade. [Re: AlastairLC]
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Andrew,
The version on my iPad says "iPad" on the logo. It is Version 1.0.12 (build 5200). When I go to the App Store, the only version that pops up is Version 1.0.15 with a "download from cloud" icon showing. If I go ahead and download that version, will all the songs I've got on my iPad run on it without having to download them all over again from my PC? Thanks.
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