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#429211 - 09/08/17 07:28 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Change feel
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Hi how do I change the feel from swing to even part way through a song please

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#429214 - 09/08/17 07:49 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Picker]
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Welcome to the forum. If you change the style, you can do this. At the point you want the change, press F5 (bar settings). You will see a place to load a new style.

Styles can be swing or even, with 8 or 16 beat per bar feel.

I often write songs changing from swing to Latin (which has an even 8ths feel).
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#429238 - 09/09/17 04:40 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Picker]
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What Matt said.

And....

If you are using MIDI styles and the swing and even styles use different instruments, you can change instruments if you like so that both styles use the same ones. This is also accomplished in the F5 dialog box

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#429409 - 09/11/17 03:19 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Matt Finley]
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thanks for trying. I don't want to change the style just the feel. I have done it once some time ago and stupidly didn't write down the process. Its for a song by John Fogerty called "Don't yo Wish It Was True" which changes from swing to sraight at he first chorus. I have thestyle I want but cant remember how I changed the feel
Cheers

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#429423 - 09/11/17 05:50 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Picker]
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Perhaps you changed just the drum track?
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#429512 - 09/12/17 04:01 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Picker]
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Picker,

I wonder if you used one of the limited styles that incorporates both a swing and an even style that are accessed by changing part markers.

Other than that, I cannot think of any other way to change feel without changing either style or Realtrack or drums. The even/swing feel is not something that it's possible to switch between with a simple action (with the exception of the style mentioned at the start of this reply).

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#431002 - 09/24/17 10:28 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: Change feel [Re: Picker]
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Hi Picker and welcome to the forum. You should be reading the disclaimers at the top of each forum explaining what it's for. This is the wrong forum for this question. It's a Biab question and you would get a lot more responses if this was posted in the Biab forum. Plus you need to tell us what version are you using and is it Windows or Mac? There's a Biab Windows forum and a separate Mac forum.

Anyway, Biab is controlled by styles. There are all kinds of different styles and it's the styles that control the feel. EV means even feel and SW means swing feel. Each one has dozens of styles. Using F5 as described above allows you to change the style at that bar. You can put any number of different styles in different parts of your song. You want to change styles every 2 bars? You can do that.

Now, here's where Biab gets complicated but very useful. ASSUMING you're using one of the newer versions (this is why we need the version) you can simply switch out one or more instruments being used in any given style. And that instrument can be anything so for example you're talking about switching from even to swing. You can decide to take the guitar that could be comping using swing and replacing it with a heavy metal grunge part, or a latin guitar or literally anything. AND it can be either a midi part or an RT.

When you think about that you begin to realize that even though Biab is based on styles, since we now can control EVERY SINGLE PART of any style the styles become merely suggestions. Lots of users never get into that because picking a style and hitting Play is simple and that is good enough for them but it can be so much more if you want to dig into it.

Being able to do that is the huge exception to simply switching styles. That is an advanced feature that can take some time to get your head around so I'll stop here for now and see what you think.

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