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#429374 - 09/10/17 05:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Real Track groove like Road Song?
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Hi all,

I usually just use he straight Bebop and Swing type real tracks. I've been learning the Wes Montgomery tune OGD (Road Song). Has anyone found real tracks similar to the groove on the Wes - Jimmy Smith recording?
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#429376 - 09/10/17 05:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqhN6rvfJt4

is my favorite cut, but a groove like this would work as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbnvi0CpiF4
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#429381 - 09/10/17 07:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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You might start with something like _CENTRAL style, and then possible change the guitar

_CENTRAL.STY. Central Park Mellow Jazz Soul
All RealTracks. Quartet. Tempo=130 (110-155)
Instruments: Fretless Bass, Ac.Piano, El.Guitar, Drums
RD: JazzFunkGroovin^5-a:HHSdStk, b:RdSStk :Ricky Lawson
RT1769: Bass, Fretless Electric, JazzFunkMovin Ev16 130 , Alex Al
RT2288: Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm BossaKenny Ev 140 , Kenny Barron
RT1770: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm JazzFunkMovinChords Ev16 130 , Michael Thompson
Memo: A mellow jazz soul Style featuring fretless electric bass, electric guitar, acoustic bossa piano, and jazz soul drums.

Also:
_RDHO_LS.STY. Mid Tempo Jazz Blues (120 RS)
All RealTracks. Quartet. *** with Soloist ***Tempo=120 (110-150)
Instruments: El.Bass, Res.Guitar, El.Guitar(solo), Drums
RD: BossaBrushesFull^1-a:Sidestick, Brushes , b:Sidestick, Ride :Craig Scott
RT519: Bass, Electric, Pop HalfNotes Ev 120 , Dow Tomlin
RT584: Guitar, Resophonic, Rhythm Blues Roadhouse Ev 120 , Jack Pearson
RT583: Guitar, Electric, Soloist Blues Roadhouse Ev 120 , Jack Pearson
Memo: All RealTracks! This slow blues Style features Pop HalfNotes Bass, Roadhouse Blues Resophonic Rhythm Guitar and Soloist, with BossaBrushes RealDrums.

Another worthy of consideration is:
_ARVORES.STY. Arvores Bossa Trio Rhythm Guitar
All RealTracks. Trio. Tempo=110 (90-140)
Instruments: Ac.Bass, El.Guitar, Drums
RD: BossaBrushes: a: Sidestick Brushes b: Sidestick, Ride :Craig Scott
RT921: Bass, Acoustic, Bossa Ev 110 , Neil Swainson
RT2826: Guitar, Electric, Rhythm BossaCompOlly12-key Ev 110 , Oliver Gannon
Memo: This medium jazz bossa rhythm Style features a trio of bass, drums, and electric guitar.
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#429399 - 09/11/17 12:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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This kind of stuff is called jazz boogaloo, sort of a old school funky latin feel. There isn't a style that I'm aware of for this but it's a good suggestion. The thing about RT styles is they're not fixed like the midi styles are. With midi the style elements are actually created by the author or user so you could create this in midi perfectly. Of course then you lose the sound quality of the RT's. But midi can sound really good with a high quality synth to play them.

RT styles are really not styles at all. Since RT's are prerecorded audio tracks you can't change anything but there are so many of them now that I think it's possible to put some together to get close to this. Or, maybe a midi/RT hybrid style.

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#429497 - 09/11/17 07:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Thanks you guys. Found a combination of stuff that works great!
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#429504 - 09/12/17 01:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Great

Do let us know what you chose.
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#429537 - 09/12/17 08:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Yes, please tell us what you found.

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#429642 - 09/13/17 04:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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I play Road Song using BIAB as a backing track.

Currently I use _BOSORGS (Bossa Organ Soloist with band)
I mute the Organ solo & dial back both the b3 and the guitar.
Perhaps not perfect but its a decent groove.


If you dig Wes,check out Grant Green's "The Latin Bit". Its a killer.
His version of My Little Suede Shoes knocks me out.


Good luck.
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#429833 - 09/15/17 03:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: mrgeeze]
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Hi,
I came to this discussion rather late...
I've been using the -ZAWINUL.STY which I rather like.
What do you all think?

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#429900 - 09/15/17 03:30 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Mark Stonebanks]
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I can't seem to find -ZAWINUL.STY. What set is it in?
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#429905 - 09/15/17 04:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Not at my PC but maybe it’s an underscore rather than hyphen?
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#429907 - 09/15/17 04:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Matt Finley]
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#429929 - 09/15/17 08:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: raymb1]
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Yes, it's in the 'Misc.' set, it's MIDI from November 2006. Spelling is correct.
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#429930 - 09/15/17 11:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Originally Posted By: Petimar
Thanks you guys. Found a combination of stuff that works great!

Still interested to know what the O/P ultimately decided on.
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#430027 - 09/17/17 12:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: raymb1]
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Hi,
Not sure what set it's in.
I'm on annual leave at the moment so can't access BIAB
I recall that it's actually a mix of MIDI and RT.
I've been using it for a long time so... older

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#430029 - 09/17/17 02:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: raymb1]
Mark Stonebanks Offline
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My last reply hasn't appeared...
Currently away from my BIAB... I've been using this style for ages so it probably isn't a Real Style.

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#430137 - 09/17/17 09:34 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: MarioD]
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Got it. Thanks MarioD.
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#430150 - 09/18/17 04:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: Petimar]
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Originally Posted By: Petimar
Thanks you guys. Found a combination of stuff that works great!


it sure would be nice if Petimar could find a minute of time to tell us what combination of stuff worked.

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#430152 - 09/18/17 05:07 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: w]
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Originally Posted By: w
Originally Posted By: Petimar
Thanks you guys. Found a combination of stuff that works great!


it sure would be nice if Petimar could find a minute of time to tell us what combination of stuff worked.

Yes, agree. I spent a fair bit of time searching and trying lots of styles to try to help. It would be great if the O/P's solution was shared.
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#431163 - 09/25/17 01:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Real Track groove like Road Song? [Re: VideoTrack]
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Here is what I found. This works enough to play against, though not ideal by any means.


Bass: Electric Pop Sw 120
Organ Rythum B3 Rhythm Jazz SW 140
Drums: Bossa/Brushes full
Guitar: Electric, rhythm Bossa EV 140

Thanks all of you for your ideas!


Edited by Petimar (09/26/17 05:17 PM)
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