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#437370 - 11/10/17 08:03 AM [RealBand] Absolute beginner question - no sound
Lyle Offline
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I just fired up Real Band 2017 on Windows for the first time, chose the software synth at startup (I think), entered chords, hit play.
The song evidently plays, but no sound.

Clearly some problem with audio setup, but where to look?

Thanks....

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#437393 - 11/10/17 10:48 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Did you choose a MIDI only style or a RealTracks style?

Do you hear a count-in first, or nothing at all?

Do other sound programs work on that computer OK?

A further thought: Do you have sound from BiaB?


Edited by VideoTrack (11/10/17 10:51 AM)
Edit Reason: BiaB question
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#437427 - 11/10/17 03:24 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Check your audio drivers and midi in/out settings 1st.

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#437468 - 11/10/17 06:27 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Suggest you look at Options > Preferences > Audio.
Check if Audio Drivers are set to MME, Audio File Type 16 bit, 44.1KHz

Press the Drivers button, and see what Audio Output Driver is selected to.
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#437503 - 11/11/17 06:01 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Lyle Offline
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- I'm using what seems to be the default style, ZZJAZZ
- no sound over 2 count-in bars, no sound while playing marked chord
- BIAB, Audacity, Spotify all work fine
- Audio Preferences set to: 16bit 44.1, MME
- Drivers: "Microsoft Sound Manager" and "Microsoft Sound Mapper" are selected and at the top.

Honestly, all I did was an install, selecting all defaults. Why me, Lord?

Thanks for the replies...

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#437512 - 11/11/17 07:06 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Try msgs synth instead .. And any other available audio driver
Generally the mapper ones are not ideal
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#437517 - 11/11/17 07:36 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Lyle Offline
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Maybe something's not installed.

My Input Drivers are (in this order):
- Microsoft Sound Mapper (highlighted)
- Microphone (High Definition Aud
- Microphone (Digital Video Recor
- Line In (Digital Video Recorder

My Output Drivers are (in this order):
- Speakers (High Definition Audio (highlighted
- Microsoft Sound Mapper
- Speakers (High Definition Audio
- Speaker (Digital Video Recorder

I installed BIAB 2017 from a PGMusic distributed usb stick, onto my Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit laptop. I took all the defaults at install time.

I did find this page, and will go through it's suggestions:
http://www.pgmusic.com/tutorial_rbw_nosound.htm

Thanks, everyone, for your help....

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#437524 - 11/11/17 10:08 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Are you in the windows mixer or RB Audio Drivers area?

They are different.


Edited by rharv (11/11/17 10:10 AM)
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#437538 - 11/11/17 12:27 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Example


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#437540 - 11/11/17 12:31 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Lyle Offline
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RealBand -> Options -> Preferences -> Audio -> Drivers
The lists I gave above are all I see.

Maybe I should reinstall??

Thanks again to everyone....

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#437561 - 11/11/17 02:30 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Quote:
- I'm using what seems to be the default style, ZZJAZZ

That is a Midi style so you need a midi device to play it.
What is your Midi Devices set to ????
Click on the Midi Devices button at the top.
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#437594 - 11/11/17 07:06 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Lyle Offline
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Let's see if I've figured out how to attach a jpg.

Yay! it worked....


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Edited by Lyle (11/11/17 07:06 PM)

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#437597 - 11/11/17 07:39 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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So you should have sound now ? are you using the onboard RealTek audio into some speakers ?

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#437605 - 11/11/17 08:44 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Lyle Offline
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Sorry, still no sound.

RealTek, I never heard of. This is a Dell E6430 laptop, running Windows 10, and no added audio gizmos.

Audacity, BIAB, Spotify all play fine through my external speakers

And I really took all the defaults at install time, so don't know why I'm such a "problem child".

Thanks...

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#437607 - 11/11/17 08:50 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Take a look and note down all of the Audio Settings etc that are being used in BiaB (Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup), and make sure that RealBand is set to use the exact same settings.
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#437721 - 11/12/17 02:40 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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In Options-Preferences- Audio Tab

Click the Drivers button.

Select the desired audio output port (speakers?), and then click the 'Move Selected Device to Top' button (this makes it the default device in RB).

Hopefully this last bit helps with actually hearing the sound.
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#439657 - 11/22/17 04:09 PM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
Kent - PG Music Offline
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Hi Lyle,

In Band-in-a-Box, you can simply type in chords, pick a style, hit Play, and hear something, but RealBand works very differently. It doesn't automatically generate anything when you hit Play. If you look in the Tracks window, tracks are likely all empty.

It sounds like you needed to open a song that you'd created in Band-in-a-Box already (recommended), or hit the Generate button on the RealBand toolbar, then "Generate All BB Tracks", if you want to create the song only using RealBand.

If you'd like to make sure your audio and MIDI settings are correct, the demo song Listen.SEQ in the X:\RealBand\Samples folder is a great test, as it contains audio and MIDI tracks.

Thanks
Kent
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#441168 - 11/28/17 06:20 AM [RealBand] Re: Absolute beginner question - no sound [Re: Lyle]
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Hi Lyle....

did you install a "default synth" for RB?

I want to think that the default Microsoft sound card synth doesn't work because I had to specifically set up TTS to be my default synth. As soon as I did that I had sound.

this was my problem with no sound when I first started. If you have sound in BB it's because you have a synth in it. I think you need to do the same thing in RB.

I'm pretty sure audio should play if you have the driver set up properly, but midi based tracks won't, and that includes the count in.
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