You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#432929 - 10/09/17 11:07 PM [Songwriting] How Steely Dan Composes A Song
pghboemike Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/13/02
Posts: 2399
_________________________
Lenovo YOGA 900 Window s 10 Home 64bit 16GB RAM casio wk7500 presonus audiobox i2 usb interface
casio wk-7500
biab & realband 2017 everything pk both with Current builds

Top
#440018 - 11/23/17 03:58 PM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
Joe -PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 756
Hi pghboemike, This is a great breakdown of his music. The Mu Major chord and how that progresses in to the verses I found quite interesting! - Thanks for sharing! smile
_________________________
Cheers,
Joe

Top
#440260 - 11/24/17 11:46 AM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
Ember - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 06/19/17
Posts: 731
Loc: Victoria, BC
It's always really interesting to see the creative process of others, but especially when it comes to music. Very interesting! Thanks for the share.
_________________________
Cheers,
Ember

Top
#440322 - 11/24/17 04:32 PM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
DaveBrooksMusic Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 08/24/15
Posts: 244
Loc: North Carolina, USA
Hello pghboemike!

Thanks so much for putting this together for the BIAB Tribe. I've always loved "The Dan" and disliked them for prying into my life and writing songs about it! =D

Unfortunately, (IMHO) the Classic: "Deacon Blues" was best appreciated with several glasses of your favorite drink. For me, it made me take a closer look at my life forcing me to give up the "Juice!!!"

But, to this day, I still find myself trying to capture the sound of a saxophone when playing my guitar...
_________________________
Also, please go to: https://soundcloud.com/davebrooksmusicfactory

HP Pavilion p6-2330; 1T; GB: 22; AMD Processor; Focusrite Scarlett Solo; Line mixer: Seismic Landsland-12p; DAW's: BIAB, Pro Tools 12.8.2 HD; Wave Pad Sound Editor.



Top
#455597 - 02/04/18 10:04 AM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
bodhi65 Offline
Newbie

Registered: 03/10/11
Posts: 10
That was fantastic, can you direct me to more videos like this! I really enjoyed learning their techniques.
_________________________
He who is not busy being born is busy dying. - Bob Dylan

Top
#455695 - 02/05/18 01:45 AM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
DeaconBlues09 Offline
Apprentice

Registered: 03/21/17
Posts: 212
Loc: Merkaz, Israel
Always great to see the Dan brought up here (in case my handle hasn't tipped y'all off, I'm a HUGE fan! cool)
_________________________
Band-in-a-Box 2018 PlusPAK w 2018 Bonus Pak. Lenovo IdeaPad 110: ISK Windows 10 Home 64-bit. CPU: Intel Core i3 @ 2.00GHz Skylake-U/Y 14nm Technology. RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel. 238GB SSD

Top
#455746 - 02/05/18 08:28 AM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
Deryk - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 1054
This is awesome - I'm a big fan of these guys, and this was a treat to watch smile Thanks for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top
#455846 - 02/05/18 03:53 PM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
ZUrlocker Offline
Newbie

Registered: 01/29/18
Posts: 14
Loc: Michigan
I heard a good interview with Donald Fagan on the RollingStone podcast. Always cool to get a glimpse into a band's workings. He talked about that Mu major chord.
_________________________
I wrote a rock opera! It's free at www.rock-opera.com

Top
#456020 - 02/06/18 12:10 PM [Songwriting] Re: How Steely Dan Composes A Song [Re: pghboemike]
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5622
Mu Major.... I remember them discussing that in Guitar Player Magazine several decades ago.

They also discussed how they write and record back in that article. On many of their tunes, no single person with the exception of Becker and Fagan ever heard the finished song before it was released. They provided just enough music... minimal tracks needed, for a given player to lay their tracks.

I don't think I've EVER heard a local NC band play any of their songs. It's just too difficult for the average bar band to try to do and do a good job on it. And the Dan themselves said when they hit the clubs and hear bands trying to cover their songs they "know" if the band knows what they're doing if they hear the Mu Major or just the plain vanilla major chords.
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top


Moderator:  Andrew - PG Music, PeterGannon 
PG Music News
RealTracks Artist Quinn Bachand - Hard at Work!

Check it out - this is happening NOW... Quinn Bachand's latest RealTracks recording session!

Image: http://www.pgmusic.com/gfx/Quinn_Session.jpeg

Listen to demos of Quinn's existing RealTracks at http://www.pgmusic.com/realtracks.artists.php?a=61&os=win&sortby=name

The Band-in-a-Box® 2018 PlusPAK Upgrade for Mac

Did you know....

If you are currently using a Band-in-a-Box® 2017 UltraPlusPAK or EverythingPAK and are wanting to upgrade to the new version, with the 202 new RealTracks that were just released, the PlusPAK upgrade is a great option! This is available on DVD, flash drive, or electronic delivery - simply install the content to your existing 2017 BB folder! Add the 49-PAK to your purchase, and you'll complete the RealTracks library with the 40 BONUS unreleased RealTracks!

This package is on sale for just $99 during our special (reg. $129): http://www.pgmusic.com/bbmac.packages.pluspak.htm.

Get to Know The Band-in-a-Box® 2018 49-PAK for Mac

Purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac during our special and you will receive a Free Bonus PAK which includes Video RealTracks Set 1: Pop Ballad Band, 10 MIDI SuperTracks, 7 Instrumental Studies, 40 AmpliTube Presets & 37 Associated bonus Styles, and 52 Loops for Band-in-a-Box!

Take it a step further and add a 49-PAK to your purchase for only $49! Add the 49-PAK to your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac purchase and you'll receive these GREAT Band-in-a-Box Add-ons:
Video RealTracks Set 2: Country TrainBeat Band
ALL 40 UNRELEASED Bonus RealTracks
22 MIDI SuperTracks
101 Instrumental Studies
Artist Performance Set 8: Traditional Songs Sung by Béatrix Méthé.

Get to Know The Band-in-a-Box® 2018 49-PAK: Video link - Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac- 49-PAK Overview

Band-in-a-Box® Version 2018 Pro & MegaPAK RealCombos!

We've added MORE to the RealCombos included in the Pro & MegaPAK packages with the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac!

The Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Pro includes 300 RealTracks instruments in over 100 bands - that's 100+ more than previous years - listen to them here.

There are now over 500 RealTracks in 300 Bands in the Band-in-a-Box® 2018 MegaPAK! Take a look at all the RealTracks & RealDrums in the MegaPAK here.

To receive the new version with these new RealCombos, upgrade during our special for as little as $59! http://www.pgmusic.com/bbmac.packages.htm.

Get ALL the Regular RealTracks & RealDrums when you upgrade to an UltraPAK or Audiophile Edition!

Title Track Day, May 23, 2018!

Did you know... today is Title Track Day!

Which album do you think of on this special day? Better yet, have you created your own album and named it after a song?

Join the converation...

New! Video RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac!

NEW with Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac - Video RealTracks Sets!

Video RealTracks allow you to see the RealTracks artist playing that track - you can use them just like any other RealTrack, and you can generate a video which will display the musician playing your song exactly as you hear it. You can also include a chord sheet or notation in the video.

We've added Video RealTracks Set 1: Pop Ballad Band to our Free Bonus PAK included in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac packages during our release special (which ends May 31st!).
Video RealTracks Set 2: Country TrainBeat Band is included in the 2018 49-PAK, along with 40 Bonus UNRELEASED RealTracks, 22 MIDI SuperTracks, 101 Instrumental Studies, and Artist Performance Set 8: Traditional Songs Sung by Béatrix Méthé.

SPECIAL OFFER: During our Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac release special, purchase our "Video RealTracks Set 3-6 Special Bundle Offer" to complete your purchase with the remaining Video RealTracks Sets for the low price of just $49! http://www.pgmusic.com/bbmac.videorealtracks.htm

Learn more about the new Video RealTracks and see them in action: http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=fzkX6jO_hW4

Video - 202 NEW RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac!

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac we also released 202 NEW RealTracks (in Sets 278-300)!

Listen to all the individual demos here: www.pgmusic.com/bbmac.202newrealtracks.htm, or watch our Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac - 202 New RealTracks Overview Video: http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=7ZrfGSqjaOU

Get all 202 new RealTracks when you purchase any Band-in-a-Box® 2018 UltraPAK, Audiophile Edition, or the PlusPAK upgrade - on sale until May 31st!

Forum Stats
27516 Members
50 Forums
51860 Topics
428481 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
KAVEE, JimmyD150155, Stevie G, Aimini, Korle

27515 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Icelander 373
Janice & Bud 149
zedd 144
Noel96 143
David Snyder 132
JayO 118
rsdean 108
Scott C 101
HearToLearn 100
Deryk - PG Music 99
Today's Birthdays
Harvey Gerst, patlam, trumpet